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re: what do the ducks eat where you hunt?

Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:58 am to
My NWLA timber woodducks are always full of acorns, mostly sitting in the top throat since I usually interrupt their final breakfast.

My Arkansas farm ducks (mallards, pintail, etc.) are full of either rice, beans, and other small grains.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:59 am to
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Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40365 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:01 am to
quote:

The divers were eating tubers mostly.



Women could learn a lot from a diver.
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:07 am to
The ducks where I hunt eat milo, wheat, and sometimes corn. (Not often because it's easy to see from the air.)

Basically whatever I feed with.
Posted by nathannb22
Brusly, La
Member since Jun 2008
1364 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:12 am to
Someone told me once to pour sand or small gravel around and in a pond you hunt. Said its not illegal and will bait them in for the reasons fore mentioned. Y'all think that would actually work?
Posted by nelatf
NELA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:12 am to
Most of the ones I kill eat at the cess ponds that feed into that strawberry field on finks hideaway.

I kill em when they fly south to 15.

They taste good.

In fact, I checked the ponds by osterland the other day and it was wrapped up with mallards. Must have been 300 plus.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:16 am
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:14 am to
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Y'all think that would actually work?


Sure, try it out an report findings.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:14 am to
Rice
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:15 am to
As you go duck huntin in your shorts and loafers.
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
2310 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:27 am to
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Someone told me once to pour sand or small gravel around and in a pond you hunt.


Sounds illegal and the success rate is undetermined. I'd stick with the corn. 100% guaranteed to have ducks.
Posted by TunaTime
LA
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:30 am to
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:11 pm to
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They need rocks or something hard to crush them similar to doves right? Don't think so. Pretty sure a duck has the gizzards and stuff to digest things on their own.


Seriously? Thats what gizzards do. They use hard matter, sand gravel etc, to crush the foods.

So if they have a gizzard, they need the hard stuff, from the little I know
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:11 pm to
Rice
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13663 posts
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:19 pm to
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So if they have a gizzard, they need the hard stuff, from the little I know


You guys don't clean the gizzards? Cut one open and you'll get sand.
Posted by Lreynolds
Member since Mar 2012
286 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:57 am to
The initial question recognizes that not only do different species eat different things, but a particular species eats different things in different places.

To address the question, "do ducks eat marsh grass", the answer is some do. Gadwalls and wigeon regularly eat the stems and leaves of submerged aquatic vegetation (SAV) like wigeongrass, southern naiad, sago pondweed, water milfoil, etc. Many species, like teal, pintails, and mallards eat the seeds produced by sago pondweed and wigeongrass, and mallards, pintails, redheads, canvasbacks, ring-necks and other species eat the rhizomes of those SAV species as well. Early in the season, when duck are heavily molting feather, SAV beds provide habitat for snails and other invertebrate foods that provide high-protien sources for molting birds.

But is "grass" necessary to support any birds at all in the marsh? No. Seeds and invertebrate foods can be found in the marsh substrate without a visible SAV component. Late-season gadwalls often eat algae in ponds that appear to have no grass or even algal mats.

When you account for the complex of habitat types a highly mobile species like ducks can include in their daily routine, the array of diet items can be pretty large. Where I hunt in SW Louisiana marsh maybe 7 or 8 miles from the rice-growing region, I've had weekends where some bluewings were full of rice, others had nothing but flatsedge seeds (Cyperus sp. that grow on marsh soils where summer drawdown stimulates germination/growth and then flood in fall and winter making those seeds available), and a couple had mixes of small seeds, snails, insect larvae and buds of some kind. So I hunt in an area where any variety of agricultural foods, SAV, and moist-soil seeds. Largely, I kill green and blue-winged teal, gadwall, and shovelers, with a smattering of other species, and I see a diverse mix of food items in the bird I clean. Most common foods are probably seeds of a variety of emergent marsh plants (millet, flatsedge, pigweed), SAV (wigeongrass and pondweeds), and fallow-ag and pasture seeds (grasses and upland weeds).

In evaluation of food available in ag field habitats for both the Gulf Coast and Lower Mississippi Valley Joint Ventures, I've been surprised at a couple of things. First, seed-producing annuals (moist-soil and weeds) provide a large proportion of the duck food in those habitats. Waste grain isn't the only food available, by a long ways, and the amount of waste grain has declined by over 60% in the last 10 years. Also, I was surprised at the importance of acorns in duck (mostly mallards) using LA/AR/MS habitats. Only in years of both banner acorn crops and lots of flooding along the major river systems are acorns a big portion of mallard diets. In all year, waste grain and moist-soil seeds are important food sources.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6978 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:06 am to
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I'd stick with the corn.


Sunflower seeds show up a lot less from the air....I heard.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:08 am to
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waste grain has declined by over 60% in the last 10 years.


And I hope that number continues to rise.
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10779 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:18 am to
Virginia smartweed
Spike Rush
Cord Grass
Horsetail
Nodding Smartweed
Sweet Flag
Lotus Seed
Annual Smartweed
Spadderdock


Lreynolds, Would you say a waterfowler would be at an advantage if he could identify the above listed plants?
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
2310 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:22 am to
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Sunflower seeds show up a lot less from the air....I heard.


You marsh guys should look into this
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
2310 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 10:23 am to
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And I hope that number continues to rise
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