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I predict this will be the lowest duck survey released by the state in years when it's released later this week.
I don't think we are going to get the survey completed in SE LA or Catahoula Lake because of weather. We've been delayed getting airborne by fog and dodged storms thus far this week to get the first 17 westernmost lines flown (the SW LA portion of the coastal transects), and it's been a ghost town.
Estimates in just SW LA:
Mallards - 2000
Mottled ducks - 14,000
Gadwall - 96,000
Wigeon - 1,000
Greenwings - 10,000
Bluewings - 67,000
Shovelers - 37,000
Pintails - 5,000
Ringnecks - 15,000
Total ducks - 247,000
And here are some preliminary comments:
The 247,000 total ducks estimated in SW LA is the lowest on record for this survey, and is less than half the next lowest estimate of 581,000 in 2013. The most recent 10-year average for SW LA on this survey is 994,000.
The most recent 10 year November averages for SW LA are: gadwalls (463,000), greenwings(145,000), bluewings (175,000), pintails (51,000), and shovelers (83,000).
This November’s SW LA estimates for gadwalls and greenwings have never been lower. In the last 10 years, estimates for bluewings and shovelers have only been lower once. These data indicate there has not yet been a major migration into coastal SW LA.
One small flock of white-fronted geese were the only geese seen during this portion of the survey.
We have not yet flown SE LA transects or the cruise survey at Catahoula Lake, and predicted weather suggests we may not be able to prior to the season opening this Saturday in the West and Coastal Zones.
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the regular licenses are always going up every few years but i havent heard of lifetime going up "yet"
Regular hunting license fees have not changed since 2000. Non-resident waterfowl hunters may have even seen a decrease in 2009 when we changed our license options.
There have been a lot of folks posting photos with over-limits of scaup this year. The daily bag limit is 3 so be careful, and know that LE is watching the forums as well. One of my good friends and 3 partners hunted near Delacroix this morning. They all limited on scaup and didn't get another species.
In most years and in most places, over-bagging scaup is a rarity. But for whatever reason, in some years, our scaup kill goes out the roof. During those years, scaup are found in far more places than normal, we shoot a lot of adults, and get a pulse of recoveries from long-banded birds. It seems that the population becomes vulnerable compared to prior years. This year seems to be one of those years. At my lease, for example, we killed more scaup the opening weekend of the first split than had been killed total in the prior 10 seasons.
In most years and in most places, over-bagging scaup is a rarity. But for whatever reason, in some years, our scaup kill goes out the roof. During those years, scaup are found in far more places than normal, we shoot a lot of adults, and get a pulse of recoveries from long-banded birds. It seems that the population becomes vulnerable compared to prior years. This year seems to be one of those years. At my lease, for example, we killed more scaup the opening weekend of the first split than had been killed total in the prior 10 seasons.
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I bet Larry Reynolds can't tell either, especially from in the air.
You'd lose your bet. Scaup and ringnecks are difficult to tell from the ground, but NOT from the air. Ringnecks show all black; scaup drakes show big white sides. They are a piece of cake to distinguish from the air.
I never know about totals until I see what the other observer counts and crunch the numbers, but we saw a lot more mallards on the first 11 lines yesterday vs November, and a huge number of birds between Little Pecan and Grand Lake, and north of White Lake. Catahoula Lake wasn't spectacular, but it was better than November, especially at the south end where pintails, ringnecks, and cans were stacked up. Still got 17 lines to fly and we are a half-day behind because of aircraft breakdown.
re: Second split duck survey? paging Larry
Posted by Lreynolds on 12/12/17 at 11:21 am to Homey the Clown
I saw those birds on the way back to the coast from Catahoula Lake. A big pile of snows in that area as well.
re: Second split duck survey? paging Larry
Posted by Lreynolds on 12/11/17 at 9:57 am to TigerDog83
I'm in the air now. Last week's WMA survey showed a big increase in birds, including big concentrations of birds at the mouth of the river and the highest number at Rockefeller in 15 years.
Expectations are high for this survey, but we'll see.
Expectations are high for this survey, but we'll see.
re: USFWS proposing change to Duck Stamp Contest
Posted by Lreynolds on 12/11/17 at 9:54 am to Cowboyfan89
The leadership at LDWF has asked me to consider the same thing. You can see a great example in a past LA stamp featuring pintails. I've resisted it because of how the competing artist feel about it, and my fear of it reducing participation and the overall quality of the artwork. But ??????
Survey is scheduled for Wednesday, so I would expect data by mid-day Thursday and the full November report by Friday morning. If you are on my electronic distribution list, you'll get all reports as soon as they are complete. If you aren't and want to be, send me an email and I'll add you to the list. Lreynolds@wlf.la.gov
I appreciate the kind words. I enjoy the opportunity Paradise Louisiana gives to discuss the good and not-so-good aspects of our duck hunting.
I did finish the coastal transect and Catahoula Lake survey this afternoon after a partial day on Tuesday and not being able to fly yesterday. I'm crunching the numbers for SE LA now and I will get a report out tomorrow morning. Unfortunately, because of tomorrow's holiday, we won't get NW LA flown before the season opens on Saturday. It will be flown next week along with NE LA.
The estimate from SW LA was just under 1 million, which is right about the 5-year average for that region. Someone posted the hot-spots earlier in this thread. Catahoula Lake was the poorest I've ever seen for a November survey where the lake wasn't flooded out. Only 30,000 total birds, and 28,000 of those were pintails. I'm hoping that improves before the 18th.
I expect the SE estimate to be pretty decent. We saw more birds on the line through Delacroix than we've seen in a number of years, and solid numbers on the next line and the line at the mouth of the river. The Venice area wasn't covered up, like I've seen it in the past, but there were good numbers. I was disappointed in the line through the upper Terrebonne marshes. SAV growth seemed down from the past in that area, and we saw nowhere near the ring-necks we hoped to see. But I've been hearing good reports from other areas in SE LA, so I'm hopeful for a good opening weekend.
I did finish the coastal transect and Catahoula Lake survey this afternoon after a partial day on Tuesday and not being able to fly yesterday. I'm crunching the numbers for SE LA now and I will get a report out tomorrow morning. Unfortunately, because of tomorrow's holiday, we won't get NW LA flown before the season opens on Saturday. It will be flown next week along with NE LA.
The estimate from SW LA was just under 1 million, which is right about the 5-year average for that region. Someone posted the hot-spots earlier in this thread. Catahoula Lake was the poorest I've ever seen for a November survey where the lake wasn't flooded out. Only 30,000 total birds, and 28,000 of those were pintails. I'm hoping that improves before the 18th.
I expect the SE estimate to be pretty decent. We saw more birds on the line through Delacroix than we've seen in a number of years, and solid numbers on the next line and the line at the mouth of the river. The Venice area wasn't covered up, like I've seen it in the past, but there were good numbers. I was disappointed in the line through the upper Terrebonne marshes. SAV growth seemed down from the past in that area, and we saw nowhere near the ring-necks we hoped to see. But I've been hearing good reports from other areas in SE LA, so I'm hopeful for a good opening weekend.
re: Teal opener tomorrow
Posted by Lreynolds on 9/15/17 at 7:25 pm to DeepSouthSportsman
Send me your e-mail address, and I'll add you, and anyone else, to my electronic distribution list.
re: Teal opener tomorrow
Posted by Lreynolds on 9/15/17 at 6:29 pm to tigernation81
Sorry guys, but I limped back to airports in malfunctioning aircraft twice on Tuesday and lost more than a day in flying time. 3 of 4 LDWF aircraft are down. I finished the survey at 4:30 pm yesterday and put the report out this afternoon. Check LA Sportsman website for a synopsis if you aren't on my e-mail list. The website won't post until Monday.
Good luck this weekend.
Good luck this weekend.
re: duck season interesting read from up north...
Posted by Lreynolds on 7/17/17 at 3:28 pm to choupiquesushi
Dennis Anderson is a long-time waterfowl alarmist. In the mid-80's it was illegal harvest in Louisiana that was driving waterfowl populations down, and he did a big piece that generated enough donations to buy a helicopter and send it to LE in Louisiana to "save the ducks". In the early-90's he was part of the "we're killing too many ducks" crowd and implored the USFWS to close the season (as did Delta Waterfowl) to "save the ducks". This is more of the same.
We use the same data to set the waterfowl seasons now as we always have. There are planes/observers in the air and crews on the ground to estimate the Bpop and ponds. You can read their reports yourself at www.flyways.us while they conduct the largest, most scientifically sound wildlife survey on the planet. The July brood survey was discontinued nearly 30 years ago because it didn't provide any additional value for the season-setting process, but we still use the pond counts affected by the drought.
The only thing new in the article is that we set the seasons using past year's data now. But that is because of limitations in federal law making (NEPA compliance, public comment periods, and review by federal Solicitor's Office) that we used to be able to short-cut but have faced legal challenges. Canada has set seasons a year in advance for decades, and now they set them for 2 years at a time. And as we all know, duck populations have never responded to changes in hunting regulations, much less in 1 year, so is it really a big deal?
The real BS in the article is that 1) some waterfowl managers are considering being done with harvest regulations altogether because they don't influence waterfowl populations and 2) that we continue to set liberal seasons to keep hunters in the field. First, it's only hunting regulations within the historic bounds that we know have little effect on populations. We have no experience with unlimited or completely closed seasons, so no manager anywhere thinks we should get rid of hunting regulations. Second, we now have firm evidence that liberal hunting regulations don't keep hunters in the field, and that hunter satisfaction increases with their kill until you get to 4 ducks; that 5th or 6th duck doesn't lead to any real increase in satisfaction. So why a bag limit of 6?
Because it's scientifically defensible, that's why.
Lastly, you all know the score ..... large-scale population estimates/habitat conditions do NOT dictate local hunting success. It seems that nothing is working FOR us in Louisiana, but many forces are working AGAINST us. Coastal wetland loss, loss and emigration of rice agriculture, advances(changes) in agricultural practices, climate change, invasive aquatics, etc. are all reducing the attractiveness and capacity of Louisiana habitats to support waterfowl. Some, like climate change and agricultural practices, are driving similar changes in birds wintering further north in Russia, Europe, the Middle East ..... everywhere in the northern hemisphere. I'm sometimes surprised at the ducks I continue to count from the plane every fall/winter, and what we have is still pretty special.
Sorry for the long-winded rant, but the "rules" for setting the season are clear, and the data is the same as it's always been. I'm going to a flyway meeting in August, and using the BPop, ponds, harvest, and banding data, we are going to set the framework for the 2018-19 season. I'll be giving a presentation on that and other Waterfowl Section stuff to the Commission the first Thursday in September.
We use the same data to set the waterfowl seasons now as we always have. There are planes/observers in the air and crews on the ground to estimate the Bpop and ponds. You can read their reports yourself at www.flyways.us while they conduct the largest, most scientifically sound wildlife survey on the planet. The July brood survey was discontinued nearly 30 years ago because it didn't provide any additional value for the season-setting process, but we still use the pond counts affected by the drought.
The only thing new in the article is that we set the seasons using past year's data now. But that is because of limitations in federal law making (NEPA compliance, public comment periods, and review by federal Solicitor's Office) that we used to be able to short-cut but have faced legal challenges. Canada has set seasons a year in advance for decades, and now they set them for 2 years at a time. And as we all know, duck populations have never responded to changes in hunting regulations, much less in 1 year, so is it really a big deal?
The real BS in the article is that 1) some waterfowl managers are considering being done with harvest regulations altogether because they don't influence waterfowl populations and 2) that we continue to set liberal seasons to keep hunters in the field. First, it's only hunting regulations within the historic bounds that we know have little effect on populations. We have no experience with unlimited or completely closed seasons, so no manager anywhere thinks we should get rid of hunting regulations. Second, we now have firm evidence that liberal hunting regulations don't keep hunters in the field, and that hunter satisfaction increases with their kill until you get to 4 ducks; that 5th or 6th duck doesn't lead to any real increase in satisfaction. So why a bag limit of 6?
Because it's scientifically defensible, that's why.
Lastly, you all know the score ..... large-scale population estimates/habitat conditions do NOT dictate local hunting success. It seems that nothing is working FOR us in Louisiana, but many forces are working AGAINST us. Coastal wetland loss, loss and emigration of rice agriculture, advances(changes) in agricultural practices, climate change, invasive aquatics, etc. are all reducing the attractiveness and capacity of Louisiana habitats to support waterfowl. Some, like climate change and agricultural practices, are driving similar changes in birds wintering further north in Russia, Europe, the Middle East ..... everywhere in the northern hemisphere. I'm sometimes surprised at the ducks I continue to count from the plane every fall/winter, and what we have is still pretty special.
Sorry for the long-winded rant, but the "rules" for setting the season are clear, and the data is the same as it's always been. I'm going to a flyway meeting in August, and using the BPop, ponds, harvest, and banding data, we are going to set the framework for the 2018-19 season. I'll be giving a presentation on that and other Waterfowl Section stuff to the Commission the first Thursday in September.
re: Louisiana Game Harvest Survey
Posted by Lreynolds on 5/18/17 at 11:30 am to Ron Cheramie
In a recent meeting with the Secretary of LDWF and the Louisiana Waterfowl Alliance, I was taken to task about WMA over-crowding, lack of rest areas, and poor habitat management using examples from AR and MO.
Some interesting points made during that meeting were:
AR, and MO (and MN as well) have dedicated tax funding for their wildlife management agencies.
They have had at least 1 license fee increase since 1999.
LDWF has been given over 100,000 acres of WMAs in the past 15 years, but there are fewer people on WMA staff to administer them.
Our biggest specific WMA expenditures are gravel for roads during the off-season, and running self-clearing permit boxes and managed hunts during the season.
Waterfowl Section has been successful at landing large NAWCA grants for pumps, structures, dirt-work on WMAs, but WMAs lack staff/resources/expertise to manage optimally.
We definitely have issues to address.
Some interesting points made during that meeting were:
AR, and MO (and MN as well) have dedicated tax funding for their wildlife management agencies.
They have had at least 1 license fee increase since 1999.
LDWF has been given over 100,000 acres of WMAs in the past 15 years, but there are fewer people on WMA staff to administer them.
Our biggest specific WMA expenditures are gravel for roads during the off-season, and running self-clearing permit boxes and managed hunts during the season.
Waterfowl Section has been successful at landing large NAWCA grants for pumps, structures, dirt-work on WMAs, but WMAs lack staff/resources/expertise to manage optimally.
We definitely have issues to address.
re: Louisiana Game Harvest Survey
Posted by Lreynolds on 5/18/17 at 11:07 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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The head of the watefowl program for the State posts here. Seems like a perfect place to discuss.
But my posts are about the current research survey effort, and a response to specific related questions, like YOURS or "what for?".
Otherwise, thus far it isn't a discussion, but YOUR (not our) personal gripe session.
Not that I disagree with your contention that allocation of resources to LDWF WMAs is insufficient .......
re: Louisiana Game Harvest Survey
Posted by Lreynolds on 5/18/17 at 7:45 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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What for? So LDWF can do next to nothing, other than flying over some marsh and counting ducks, to improve waterfowl hunting in Louisiana compared to almost all other states in the flyway?
If you are sincerely asking "What for?", then re-read the original post in the thread. The ultimate goal is to justify/support a more cost-effective method of getting the harvest data to maintain an open waterfowl season. Regardless of the quality of hunting, migratory bird seasons are CLOSED unless scientifically defensible data can justify them being opened. Aerial waterfowl surveys, duck banding, and harvest surveys don't do anything to improve the quality of your hunting. They are simply required to provide legal justification for having an open season in the first place, and for monitoring changes in populations distribution, large-scale habitat use, survival rates, harvest rates, hunter activity, etc. that lead to increases (wood duck, canvasback, bluewing, white-fronts and snow goose) or decreases (mottled duck and pintail) in hunting opportunity. Consequently, we would like to do them as cost-effectively as possible.
Now ...... If all you really wanted to do was publicly gripe that LDWF doesn't do enough (or hardly anything) to improve the quality of you duck hunting, then carry on. This research project has nothing to do with that, one way or the other.
re: Louisiana Game Harvest Survey
Posted by Lreynolds on 5/17/17 at 4:55 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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I was more so talking about big game hunters but either way I love that there are people out there taking the pulse of hunters and paying attention to it
Ahhhh, OK. You exposed my one-dimensional mind ....
This is my first foray outside of waterfowl-hunter surveys. Conceptually, the goal is the same: get the best harvest estimates for the least amount of $$. But I was indeed seeing feathers and not fur in interpreting your comment.
Just a heads-up.
If you were not one of the 6% to receive the random mail-out survey and you did NOT receive the e-mail survey, then it means you do not have an e-mail address in your LDWF license file.
If you want to fix that to be eligible to receive future e-mail surveys, you can go to: LINK and update your contact information.
If you were not one of the 6% to receive the random mail-out survey and you did NOT receive the e-mail survey, then it means you do not have an e-mail address in your LDWF license file.
If you want to fix that to be eligible to receive future e-mail surveys, you can go to: LINK and update your contact information.
re: Louisiana Game Harvest Survey
Posted by Lreynolds on 5/17/17 at 2:36 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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May I make a suggestion? Hunters need to be surveyed on seasons and dates.
They have been, a number of times. 2005, 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2015. On those surveys, questions on season length, timing, zones, bag limits, etc. have been asked. And what we primarily find is that hunters do NOT speak with one voice on virtually anything.
Groups of hunters in NW and SW Louisiana want earlier seasons, saying that January hunt days are worthless.
Groups of hunters in the rice prairies and the woods of NE LA want later seasons say exactly the opposite, that they have no birds until mid-December.
There is a growing group of hunters that prefer to hunt when we traditionally have the split because those are good "flight" or migration days.
Very few hunters have expressed a desire for shorter seasons or lower bag limits, but most everyone wants something "different" based on their local situation. And we have made some changes, and those don't satisfy either ...... like the new East Zone boundary where rice-field hunters got later seasons.
One of the best examples is the new West Zone created in 2012 by splitting the old West Zone into a West Zone and a Coastal Zone. Hunters supported the new zone in NW LA so they could have separate seasons from the coastal guys. It made sense. NW LA is reservoirs and piney woods, different from coastal marshes and prairies and the MAV hardwoods and swamps. But after we made the new zone, we found out that some hunters supported it so they could have LATER seasons and other supported it so they could have EARLIER seasons. And guess what? For the last 2 seasons, the best compromise was (is) to have the same season dates as the Coastal Zone.
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how is this different than the HIP cerfification that I fill out every year?
The HIP certification is the foundation for the federal (USFWS) waterfowl harvest surveys. Every migratory bird hunter is supposed to register with HIP, we send the USFWS the names and addresses of everyone that registers, and they use that database to select a sample of migratory bird hunters to receive the survey.
This is the Louisiana Big and Small Game Harvest Survey. From a database of ALL hunting license holders (not just migratory birds), a 6% sample is selected to receive the survey, and it asks about all species ..... deer, turkey, hogs, rabbits, etc.
This current study is comparing the harvest estimates we get from that 6% random mail-out to the estimates from an e-mail sample. If they are the same (like they were for the 2015 Waterfowl Hunter Survey), then we can consider scrapping the mail-out survey and save a lot of money (your money).
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