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re: Want a dog, need suggestions

Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:14 pm to
I'm not saying it can't be done, but I've never seen it. Seen it attempted plenty and it always ends the same. The dog ends up locked up or given away. I love hounds, but you can find something better.

I'm biased toward blue lacy because I had one and she was the best dog I've ever had. She worked cows, treed squirrels, tracked deer, and slept at the foot of my bed every night. I've heard of some turning out pretty rough, but mine wouldn't hurt a fly unless I sicked her on it.

I can say that if you find a hound/lab cross than you can end up with a hell of an animal.

Don't change your mind just because of me though. Im no expert There may be non-working coonhound lines out there which might serve you fine. I just don't know about em. Do lots of research and see what you come up with. Keep an eye on the la sportsman classifieds, some very cool crosses show up on there.

Best of luck man.
Posted by faxis
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 11:35 pm to
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What about a Bassett hound?


I had three generations of Bassett hounds and I'll tell you right now that's a pretty much completely worthless dog. They suck at hunting. They're hard as hell to house break. They're dumb as a stump. They like to escape and run around if it's not too hard. And they're hard headed as hell. Totally frustrating dog that's only alive because they're so freaking cute.
Posted by angus1838
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 5:53 am to
I have border collies and I would reccomend them to anyone who wants a family dog. They are smart, protective, and energetic.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:33 am to
Pretty sure the op would like a herding dog,
But he wants something big. I'm not aware of any large herding dogs other than some european breed that I can't recall the name of right now.

Anybody here ever had a ridgeback? I've always wanted one, but I've never been around one with kids around, so I can't comment on that, which is probably the most important thing.
Posted by angus1838
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:51 am to
Is the big breed you are thinking about a Pyranees?
Posted by spens
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:51 am to
We have a blue tick and she is the best dog we've ever had.

Yes, she chases squirrels and coons in the yard. We have an electric fence and she does not run away. She was also not hard to train.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:52 am to
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Pyranees


That's it
Posted by angus1838
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:57 am to
I had one and I am not saying they all are but the one I had was one lazy rascal. He wouldn't chase a biscuit much less a ball!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:03 am to
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We have an electric fence and she does not run away.


That's the key. A hound will follow it's nose into the next zip code if you don't have something to stop it.

The OP wants a hound, maybe you can help him out on how to make one into a pet.


Angus, I've never been around a pyrenees. They are pretty cool looking dogs.
Posted by SECMAN16
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:07 am to
My bloodhound recently died. It was the best and most loyal dog I ever had. But when she got on a scent there was no stopping her. Hounds are clumsy which makes for good laughs.

It's hard to have a hound without a fence. Training them to electric fence is possible but difficult.
Posted by DLauw
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:19 am to
Two of friends have rhodies. One of them has kids and the dog is excellent around them. Dixie is over 120 lbs. she's lazy as shite though but that might because of the family. That's a little too large for our household. Also, I don't like the proportion of head to body. Their heads look like they should be on much smaller dogs.

Anybody have experience with German shorthairs? An old friend's dad used to breed them but he had them kenneled and from what I read, that's a no no. They were sporting and show dogs.

I read up on the lacy last night and they seem like really cool dogs. I'm not sure about them as an inside/outside dog.

I have a large fenced backyard with a playground for kids. Lots of shade trees too. I don't want to build a separate pen for a dog. I want him/her to be social and play. Also any breed I get will be fixed, I'll leave the breeding to others.

I was also reading up on cheseapekes last night and this morning.

This is hard...
This post was edited on 1/20/12 at 8:29 am
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:20 am to
Slight hijack but was wanting some quick opinions.

As I mentioned in the other thread, I may be getting a Boykin in February (haven't committed just yet).

What are te OB's thoughts on boykins and spaniels in general? Especially trainability . I work during the week but get to go home for lunch each day. Would just be enough time to get the pup trained starting out? It will be crated-trained and an indoor/outdoor dog but I know starting out will be rough. I just want to make sure that a Boykin would be able to be trained without being watched 24/7


Thoughts?
Posted by UnevenElephant3
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:21 am to
I will give you a small lab mix femal or a beautiful Curr mix male. both fantastic dogs i just have no more room.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:25 am to
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German shorthairs


Great dogs. They're very hyper and athletic, especially at 8-12 months old. You would probably be happy with one since you have a fenced in yard. I love pointers. They are are a little hard headed but not anywhere near hound level. You shouldn't have much trouble with basic training and you don't have to worry about it biting anybody if you socialize it and raise it right.

English pointers are pretty cool also.

Lacys are great inside/outside dogs, but they want work. They need to chase something or tree something to be happy.

Posted by coloradoBengal
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:33 am to
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Anybody here ever had a ridgeback? I've always wanted one, but I've never been around one with kids around, so I can't comment on that, which is probably the most important thing.



I worked for a veterinarian that had Rhodesians. I'd say they are very similar to Catahoulas with regards to temperament and physical characteristics.

quote:


Pretty sure the op would like a herding dog,



I am firmly convinced that most herding breeds are the best combination, in the middle to largish breed size, of athlete/worker/family pet.

They dominate agility and doggie X-games like frisbee. They are bred specifically to protect and manage a herd of animals, sometimes much larger than themselves, and work alongside humans in remote locations. That makes them natural family dogs and personal companions.

I'm partial to Heelers, but Border Collies, Kelpies, Collies, Lacys, etc. probably all share some of the same characteristics.

I love labs. shite. I love most all dogs in the sporting or working classes. Terriers, retrievers, hounds, bird dogs, etc. And if I wanted a small dog, I'd probably look at a Border Terrier or Jack Russell. If I wanted a hunting dog, I'd try to find a breed that most closely fits the type of hunting I do.

But as a family dog and exercise partner? I'll never look past the medium sized herding breeds again.


Posted by coloradoBengal
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:35 am to
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I was also reading up on cheseapekes last night and this morning.


I have no personal experience with them... but have been cautioned by those that do, that small kids can be trouble with these. They are great hunting dogs, and while they look a lot like labs, are not quite as tolerant. Obviously individual experiences will vary though.
Posted by 4X4DEMON
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:39 am to
My catahoula is great with my kids. He lets them beat the hell out of him. The only time he expresses displeasure with them is at bed time when he's tired and my 4yo grabs his cheeks and twists his head nearly off.
Posted by coloradoBengal
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:46 am to
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My catahoula is great with my kids. He lets them beat the hell out of him. The only time he expresses displeasure with them is at bed time when he's tired and my 4yo grabs his cheeks and twists his head nearly off.


Its been my experience with Catahoulas, and the Rhodies I've met, that they are solid family dogs and home protectors.

Some of them can be downright scary when visitors come over though. That may just be a lack of socialization on the owner's part though.

One thing to keep in mind, that a lot of people forget... The more you socialize a dog with strangers the better he will be with visitors, but the less effective he will be with intruders. That's just how it is. You can't have it both ways.

I don't think my dog would attack an intruder, and he's not much of a barker so I don't know how much alert he would be. But he would take on any critter, snake, gator, pig, wildcat, etc that was near me or my kids... I know that much.

He just likes people too much to be an effective guard dog I think. But I don't have to worry about him growling at visitors or barking or nipping the neighbor's kids either.

He gets into the mix when the kids start wrestling, so maybe he would help in a scuffle. He might just think its playtime though.
Posted by DLauw
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:50 am to
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Catahoula


What were the parents like? From what I've read, breeding can be for hunting or for a family pet. How big is yours?
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:52 am to
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Catahoulas, and the Rhodies

Great dogs, will keep intruders out by scaring them. My next dog will be an Aussie Shepard. I have a border collie right now but it is a little tohigh strung.
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