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Tree Canopy and controlled burns
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:07 pm
Was watching a show this a.m. about wildfires out west and how doing controlled burns beneath the canopy helps control wildfires, totally makes sense.
However, the final segment was about how a deer hunting association had teamed up with the relevant parties to do the burns on more land to improve deer habitat.
Has anyone heard of doing this in the southeast?
I hunt in NE Louisiana and in areas that haven't been select cut, there is very little vegetation. Conversely where it has been select cut it seems it turns into nothing but thicket.
However, the final segment was about how a deer hunting association had teamed up with the relevant parties to do the burns on more land to improve deer habitat.
Has anyone heard of doing this in the southeast?
I hunt in NE Louisiana and in areas that haven't been select cut, there is very little vegetation. Conversely where it has been select cut it seems it turns into nothing but thicket.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:17 pm to hubreb
Turkeys love it.
The reason I clicked on this link is because I’m sitting here looking at a plot that needs to be burned right now. It hasn’t been burned in decades, and it’s going to be a little bit of trouble.
The reason I clicked on this link is because I’m sitting here looking at a plot that needs to be burned right now. It hasn’t been burned in decades, and it’s going to be a little bit of trouble.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:18 pm to hubreb
Thats something thats done in longleaf pine forests. This because it occurred naturally by lightning, but now more controlled burn. Gopher Tortise, red cocated woodpecker, Bachman fox squirrel all count on the fires occurring.
But NE La, that should be bottomland hardwoods. Never heard of burns there.
But NE La, that should be bottomland hardwoods. Never heard of burns there.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:18 pm to hubreb
They burn all the time here in FL. Most state own land is on a 3 yr rotation avg. to be burned. They also work with private land owners.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:20 pm to hubreb
Are you asking about burning in general, or getting assistance with burning through some kind of cooperative?
Supposedly timber companies are becoming more receptive to the idea of cost sharing burning with hunters, but that’s only been mentioned recently.
Tons of info out there on controlled burning in the southeast for habitat improvement. MSU deer lab has a lot of info and can point you to other resources. Short version, it’s one of the single best management tools available, but obviously there’s more to it than grabbing a can of diesel and some matches.
Supposedly timber companies are becoming more receptive to the idea of cost sharing burning with hunters, but that’s only been mentioned recently.
Tons of info out there on controlled burning in the southeast for habitat improvement. MSU deer lab has a lot of info and can point you to other resources. Short version, it’s one of the single best management tools available, but obviously there’s more to it than grabbing a can of diesel and some matches.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:28 pm to hubreb
MS forestry dept is going to burn 40’acres of my land in the spring.
I have to pay for the dozer for the fire lines which is $2500 but I think it will be well worth that.
I have to pay for the dozer for the fire lines which is $2500 but I think it will be well worth that.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 2:13 pm to EF Hutton
It is widely reported that long leaf pine actually need a fire to bust their cones or they can't germinate naturally.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 2:22 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
The reason I'm asking is it has never been done where I hunt in Mississippi River bottoms, seems like it would be worth while
Posted on 7/2/23 at 2:41 pm to hubreb
If it’s hard wood (oak, hickory, sycamore and the like) or pine, the leaves will burn really well. The trees are adapted to live through burns.
Bottom woods type like sweetgum and willow won’t burn as easily.
This is according to wild Turkey Science podcast. It’s a professor at Florida and one at Auburn.
Bottom woods type like sweetgum and willow won’t burn as easily.
This is according to wild Turkey Science podcast. It’s a professor at Florida and one at Auburn.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 3:29 pm to hubreb
Burning is excellent TSI and habitat improvement.
For all wildlife.
For all wildlife.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 3:48 pm to hubreb
If sunlight doesn’t reach the ground due to the canopy of large hardwoods, it’s not going to make much difference.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:40 pm to hubreb
The southeast has always maintained a fire culture, even through the "only you can prevent wildfire" days when fire suppression became a big deal.
In LA, burning tends to be restricted to longleaf pine, prairies, and Marsh, but the limited upland hardwoods that exist here would have burned on some longer intervals historically.
Outside of the coastal plain where longleaf was historically the dominant "tree" community, most of the woodland/savannah environments that burned were upland oak/hickory systems.
In LA, burning tends to be restricted to longleaf pine, prairies, and Marsh, but the limited upland hardwoods that exist here would have burned on some longer intervals historically.
Outside of the coastal plain where longleaf was historically the dominant "tree" community, most of the woodland/savannah environments that burned were upland oak/hickory systems.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 7:43 pm to deeprig9
quote:Long leaf needs fire to grow out of what is called the grass stage.
It is widely reported that long leaf pine actually need a fire to bust their cones or they can't germinate naturally.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:11 pm to bbvdd
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wild Turkey Science podcast
Dr Marcus Lashley is the prof from Florida. Was previously at the MSU deer lab and on the podcast. Huge proponent of burning. Seemed like he had to mention burning every other sentence when he was on the deer podcast.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:31 pm to bbvdd
quote:
MS forestry dept is going to burn 40’acres of my land in the spring.
I have to pay for the dozer for the fire lines which is $2500 but I think it will be well worth that.
How did you get this set up?
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:41 pm to bbvdd
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MS forestry dept is going to burn 40’acres of my land in the spring.
I have to pay for the dozer for the fire lines which is $2500 but I think it will be well worth that.
Interested in this too. We have land in north Miss.
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:35 pm to CatSquirrel
Contact your local service forester with the the MS forestry commission. They usually handle a few counties. You can also apply for cost share (reimbursement) for the burning and fire line prep.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:39 pm to Amite tiger
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You can also apply for cost share (reimbursement) for the burning and fire line prep.
Only if your are planting trees according to my agent.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:58 pm to bbvdd
They have two types of burning, one for site prep( preparing to plant trees) and one for silvicultural practice. The latter I have used for an established forest. It pays less than the site prep, but was happy to get it.
Posted on 7/3/23 at 6:47 am to EF Hutton
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But NE La, that should be bottomland hardwoods. Never heard of burns there.
In areas such as Union Parish, where my property is, there pine plantations that are control burned after selective timber harvesting of tracts.
It vastly improves food sources and habitat for wildlife. What it primarily does is burn off all the fallen pine straw to expose the dirt to sunlight.
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