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Tracing handgun purchase to original owner

Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:38 am
So I have a handgun that I purchased approximately 10 yrs ago. It has been on the shelf for most of that time and totally has about 1000 rounds through it. After taking it out for a couple range trips over the last few weeks, I noticed an issue where it does not release the magazines completely. After some research, this was a known issue with this particular gun bearing SNs in the range of mine.

I contacted their customer service and they are willing to service it (probably replace it) if I can prove I am the original owner.

I will look later, but chances I have the original receipt are slim, so my question is, is there some way I can prove this otherwise? Can I somehow access how the background check was run and would it show for what particular reason? Would Academy be able to access some kind of record of firearm purchase?



Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
9795 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:41 am to


Knew that was coming.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9130 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:43 am to
quote:

will look later, but chances I have the original receipt are slim, so my question is, is there some way I can prove this otherwise? Can I somehow access how the background check was run and would it show for what particular reason? Would Academy be able to access some kind of record of firearm purchase?


I would just send it in claiming to be the original owner. It's up to them to disprove it.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43468 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:47 am to
what manufacturer? maybe hit them up and call them out on social media. that is bs.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48357 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:48 am to
Is the place you bought it still around? Because I think they have to keep the original purchasers info on file by law.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:49 am to
quote:

they are willing to service it (probably replace it) if I can prove I am the original owner.


Curious, but what brand is giving you such a hard time about it? I know HK, for example, says this, but they won't turn you away with a warranty issue if you're not the original owner.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66377 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:50 am to
They won't run a trace for you. They still have your 4473 but 99% chance they will not track it or the receipt down for you.

Send that bitch back and tell them to fix it. Total bullshite if they refuse. If they don't fix it, tell us so that we can never buy anything from them
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
9795 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:53 am to
It is a CZ.

And yes, I bought it at Academy.

Their reasoning is that when the issue was first discovered, they were replacing the guns experiencing this issue with a new one. People found this out and started buying used ones and sending them in to get a new one at a used price. While I am sure this happened, it still dosent change that the issue did exist.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 10:56 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48357 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:55 am to
I don't know if Academy would give you that proof if you asked them but they might. Not sure how that all works.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:01 am to
quote:

It is a CZ.


Wow. Kinda shocked at that.

quote:

Their reasoning is that when the issue was first discovered, they were replacing the guns experiencing this issue with a new one. People found this out and started buying used ones and sending them in to get a new one at a used price. While I am sure this happened, it still dosent change that the issue did exist.


None of which is your issue. They should repair or replace, no questions.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5289 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Their reasoning is that when the issue was first discovered, they were replacing the guns experiencing this issue with a new one. People found this out and started buying used ones and sending them in to get a new one at a used price. While I am sure this happened, it still dosent change that the issue did exist.


You're not wrong.

Seems like no matter if you're the original owner or second hand owner they shouldn't care. They sold a faulty product and should replace it regardless if you're the 1st or 10th owner.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11494 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:24 am to
I know there are probably some dumbass gun store owners that would give out this information, but nobody should tell you anything about the previous owners of that gun. Send it to CZ, just tell you are the original owner. If they ask where you bought it... Academy. They shouldn't expect you to keep a receipt for a decade.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
9795 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Seems like no matter if you're the original owner or second hand owner they shouldn't care. They sold a faulty product and should replace it regardless if you're the 1st or 10th owner.



This is my feeling as well. If they deemed them faulty back then, they should today as well. Hoping it goes that route.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5081 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:30 am to
Ask the manufacturer if they will assume the liability of shooting a gun with a known defect that they will not repair.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24943 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:42 am to
Tell them that you bought it at academy. They will be able to run the serial number and see that they did in fact ship that gun to Academy.

If that doesn't work, tell them your lawyer will be sending them a nice letter.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30877 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Can I somehow access how the background check was run and would it show for what particular reason?


No

quote:

Would Academy be able to access some kind of record of firearm purchase?


No
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
9795 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 4:46 pm to
Update: I was actually able to find my receipt with all the original paperwork from the gun. Replied to his email with a copy of it and will see how they respond.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48842 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 9:17 pm to
Tell them its a safety issue and you cannot release the magazine to make the weapon completely safe. See what they say....
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Send that bitch back and tell them to fix it. Total bullshite if they refuse. If they don't fix it, tell us so that we can never buy anything from them


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