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re: This is an image of a God's Country STATE RECORD pending buck deer

Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:25 am to
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:25 am to
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Sounds easy to me knowing she is going to kill a 280" or whatever it is opening day of gun season.


Unless their place is tiny, its not always that easy.
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:35 am to
If I had a high fence, here is a list of things I would incorporate:

- 1,500 acres
- 75% Mature hardwoods
- a portion of timber flooded and designated to duck hunting (250 acres)
- bow hunt only, unless letting kids shoot culls
- climber and lock on only with exception of a couple of boxstands in clearings for kids to shoot culls
- Feed minerals and supplement in offseason/ food plots during season. No hunting over bait.
- No game cameras
- Least amount of motorized vehicle use as possible.
Posted by ShubutaMS
5682 posts
Member since Aug 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Unless their place is tiny, its not always that easy.



This is correct.

Depending on how big the ranch is, it could take as much as a hour of waiting before the deer comes to the feeding trough. Its not always as easy as just poking the rifle through a fence and baang.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10507 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:37 am to
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Some places around us totally cleaned house after they put up their fence and brought in an entire new herd.


They aren't going to start hunting the super herd for maybe 3-4 more years from what the biologist has advised them. The only hunting they are going to do is to continue to wipe out the rest of the population which has some pretty decent shooters and shoot their exotics.
Posted by geaux_fish
Arizona
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:37 am to
quote:

- No game cameras


why no cameras?
Posted by Rod Farva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Sep 2012
1136 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:39 am to
High fence hunting isn't near as easy as you think....
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:39 am to
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why no cameras?


because it would add to the mystique, not knowing exactly what you had in there. I would have a biologist come in and let me know what I need to shoot on the property, but I would like to at least salvage some of the element of surprise.
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:39 am to
quote:

High fence hunting isn't near as easy as you think....


He is very much speculating
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:42 am to
quote:

If I had a high fence, here is a list of things I would incorporate: - 1,500 acres - 75% Mature hardwoods - a portion of timber flooded and designated to duck hunting (250 acres) - bow hunt only, unless letting kids shoot culls - climber and lock on only with exception of a couple of boxstands in clearings for kids to shoot culls - Feed minerals and supplement in offseason/ food plots during season. No hunting over bait. - No game cameras - Least amount of motorized vehicle use as possible.


We are 0-8 but you also have to take into account the terrain, typical South Texas hunting is a lot different than most other places around the country.
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:44 am to
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I would have a biologist come in and let me know what I need to shoot on the property, but I would like to at least salvage some of the element of surprise.


One of the first things he will ask you is if you have any game camera pics or game logs from the stands for him to take a look at. If not, an areal survey will have to be done (which are awesome but also very expensive).
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:55 am to
quote:

We are 0-8 but you also have to take into account the terrain, typical South Texas hunting is a lot different than most other places around the country.


Oh I understand. And that was strictly my dream property.

quote:

One of the first things he will ask you is if you have any game camera pics or game logs from the stands for him to take a look at. If not, an areal survey will have to be done (which are awesome but also very expensive).


Then that's what I would have to do.. I have a couple of buddies with some planes that I would trade a deer hunt for a flyover.

Posted by Rod Farva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Sep 2012
1136 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:57 am to
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He is very much speculating


Yep...folks think you go sit on stand for 5 minutes and choose 1 out of 12 150"+ bucks you want to shoot...
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35567 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:07 am to
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Yep...folks think you go sit on stand for 5 minutes and choose 1 out of 12 150"+ bucks you want to shoot...



Then why are many high fence outfitters guaranteed kill? I don't care what anyone else likes to hunt, but I do hold fair chase bucks in higher regard. That's not to say it's easy, but it is definately easier than fair chase


I do hate Keith Warren tho
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 11:08 am
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6061 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:07 am to
One of my childhood friends' family purchased 7300+ acres in south central Texas in 1991. This area is known for 150+ class bucks on a regular basis, with a few 185+ thrown in every 10 yrs or so. Their particular place wasn't high fence entirely but sections had been due to neighboring ranches putting lots of hunting pressure on their herd. They immediately high fenced the entire ranch (close to 23 miles of high fence!) joined MLD and began a managment program. No deer were brought in or interfered with other than feed (protein off season/corn during season) and water. They are now producing some incredible animals. I'm not aware of any 200" deer taken from the place but there have been at least two 190+".

TLDR:
A 223" deer is incredible anywhere if there wasn't a brought in or a brood buck.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81898 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:22 am to
Too bad about the nasty stickers.
Posted by Rod Farva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Sep 2012
1136 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Then why are many high fence outfitters guaranteed kill? I don't care what anyone else likes to hunt, but I do hold fair chase bucks in higher regard. That's not to say it's easy, but it is definately easier than fair chase


I guarantee I can go to a the e3 ranch in Kansas or one of the 5 clubs in fort Adams or a lease in fayette and they can guarantee me a kill on a 3 day hunt too...

In fact I've been to all 3 and killed everytime on all 3..
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 11:29 am
Posted by TigerBait413
CenLA
Member since Sep 2011
3280 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:40 am to
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Then why are many high fence outfitters guaranteed kill?

You are going to kill a deer no matter what. Just depends on what kind of deer. They have so many deer in some places that you can pick and choose the deer you want.
Posted by NicoBlues
I eat frogs
Member since Dec 2009
15048 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:44 am to
Pics?
Posted by Rod Farva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Sep 2012
1136 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:48 am to
They're at home I'll get pics of the mounts later...132", 148", and a 164" non typical.
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6512 posts
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:50 am to
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164" non typical


Nice
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