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re: “That deer was on the decline”
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:04 pm to Fratigerguy
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:04 pm to Fratigerguy
Exception...to the rule
I'm not saying some arent weak 2.5 yr and nice 3.5. But I've sat there and watched deer year after year grow, but whatever issue they had a 2.5, they still had the next year...and maybe the next.
I'm not saying some arent weak 2.5 yr and nice 3.5. But I've sat there and watched deer year after year grow, but whatever issue they had a 2.5, they still had the next year...and maybe the next.
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:03 pm to GREENHEAD22
No. Why? Antler restrictions, maybe. Tag reduction, no. You can barely drive down a road at night for fear of hitting a deer. I say kill more. And the tag system is gay.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 11:22 pm to White Bear
I don't find many that kill 6 anyway...the antler restriction is 100% needed....now
Posted on 12/9/17 at 5:47 am to SportTiger1
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I don't find many that kill 6 anyway
Never will I kill 6 deer. Most years I only kill one. I like to have two, every now and then I might get three. Three is the most I've ever gotten, and it will most likely be the most I'll ever get.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:17 am to SportTiger1
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the antler restriction is 100% needed
This is never going to happen statewide, for the simple reason that the Wildlife and Fisheries Commission would have so much pressure on them to not do it, that they would cave.
I think it would be safe to say that the majority of deer hunters in Louisiana aren't worried about antler size. Otherwise, the "if it's brown, it's down" mentality would not be what it is today in this state.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:17 am to White Bear
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tag system is gay
We we're one of the last states to go to that system. It takes two minutes tops to report your deer. We can now see how many deer are being harvested each year. It used to be a wild arse guess on how many were harvested
Obviously many do not report, but there are flaws to each system.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:43 am to upgrade
I ain’t screwing w more than 2
I’ll kill a third but only if a family member wants a deer.
I think the term cull is overused as well. But I don’t care, they are your deer to shoot if you want,
With does being half the genetic makeup, I don’t know that culling benefits near as much as other factors.
I’ll kill a third but only if a family member wants a deer.
I think the term cull is overused as well. But I don’t care, they are your deer to shoot if you want,
With does being half the genetic makeup, I don’t know that culling benefits near as much as other factors.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:46 am to Ron Cheramie
We should report our deer. I like the tagging system.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:47 am to Fratigerguy
Mississippi State says Antler Restrictions caused “high grading” at Sunflower WMA.
Many biologist will say you can’t affect genetics in a wild herd. If so, how did “high grading” occur at Sunflower?
Many biologist will say you can’t affect genetics in a wild herd. If so, how did “high grading” occur at Sunflower?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 6:54 am to tigerfoot
In theory I don't mind the tagging system. In practice, when its 30 degrees and everything is wet, and my ink pen doesn't seem to want to write............
then I hate it.
then I hate it.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:04 am to upgrade
Oh yeah, we should be issued actual tags that can be notched and applied. I’d pay an extra .59 cents for some adhesive ones
This post was edited on 12/9/17 at 7:20 am
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:17 am to upgrade
It was a little cumbersome at first. Now it's just the way. Most that complain and don't comply are the older generation that think the gubment don't need to know how many deers they done killed
Adhesive tags would be great
Adhesive tags would be great
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:42 am to Fratigerguy
quote:Wait, so now you're questioning that club's set of rules? I have no interest in hat debate. Not my club, and they approved what their biologist recommended. In any event, since one was 5, and the other 6, they would have come out no matter what.
Ahh. I missed this earlier.
Decline...
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:42 am to Ron Cheramie
Put tags and pin in ziplock in hunting pack. Include a luggage tag that allows you to put name, address, etc inside plastic sleeve. Put filled tag in there and attack to deer.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 7:49 am to Ron Cheramie
I don't mind tagging a deer in the woods, or even reporting it within the set time. It's the fact that I have paper work to fill out while I'm still in the woods.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 8:59 am to AlxTgr
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Wait, so now you're questioning that club's set of rules?
No, not at all. Just that that kind of stuff is what leads to these debates. Just wanted to show what a velvet injury can cause. I like talking about this kind of stuff is all.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:19 am to Fratigerguy
Anyone know the heck was goin on with this Olla deer? Joe, was he aged?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:52 am to 257WBY
Well, because high grading isn't altering genetics. No one claims that it is. This is primarily because yearling antler size has shown a stronger correlation to birth month and environmental factors than it has to genetics. Also, those losses to high grading are observed through 3.5 years old, but begin to disappear at 4.5. Several studies in free range populations show this. Even Demarais and Strickland (the biologists behind the MS study) acknowledge high grading doesn't have a negative effect on antler genetics.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:05 pm to SportTiger1
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Exception...to the rule
What rule? Are you implying that there are large numbers of genetically inferior older age class deer running around in comparison to those who may have injured pedicles, bone injuries, snake bites, velvet damage, poor quality nutrition, etc, in a given year?
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But I've sat there and watched deer year after year grow, but whatever issue they had a 2.5, they still had the next year...and maybe the next.
Aren't you the guy who earlier said that y'all shot every deformed rack y'all saw to change the genes, and now for some reason y'all still don't have 3.5 year old bucks? Are you sure you've watched multiple deer age through his life with tiny, deformed racks?
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:33 pm to Ron Cheramie
I think,it's a waste of time. Non compliance is a big issue, so much so they still use mail out surveys t do the annual harvest estimation. There was a story in La Sportsman last fall that talked about it and LDWF even threatened to reduce the limit. and if that site wasn't so shitty I could search and link the article here but I can't find it.
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