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Terry Bass boats - interesting post on the boats and industry

Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:26 pm
From another board...none of this is mine...I know nothing about it:

Here's some info from a former manager:

My name is "JC" and I was a District Sales Manager for Delhi Mfg., makers of Terry Bass Boats from 1975 thru 1980.

"What happened to Delhi?":
In the last quarter of '77 we were the #2 bass boat company in the nation...second only to Forest Wood's Ranger Boats, made in Arkansas. To the best of my recollection, we were the only two companies with dealerships all over the U.S.

Things started going sour. We made a better boat than Ranger, and it cost more, but hardly any company was meeting sales objectives by mid-'78. In the summer of '78 Terry/Delhi management met with Dick Woolworth, head of the Woolworth's Department Stores and parent company to Terry/Delhi. Because our sales were booming nationally we needed more manufacturing facilities, and a bigger plant overall. Dick had come down to discuss the possibility of Woolworth's loaning some major bucks to it's boat company.

At the time, gas had gone up to .79 cents per gallon and predictions were it would go to a dollar or more. This is bad for boat retailers and manufacturers. Jimmy Carter had allowed prime interest rates to go to well above 13% to 14%. At one point it hit 16%, as I recall. When a manufacturer sells a load of boats to a dealer, the dealer borrows the money to pay off the loan on a short note. His interest is most commonly based on the prime rate that the government charges banks and lenders, plus another 6% to 8% (at the time). As you can see dealers were having to pay from 18% to 24% to the IRS for the "privilige of doing business". High interest rates plus the "high" cost of gas were combining to make the cost of a high end bass boat out of reach for the average angler like me. At that meeting in Hot Springs, Ark. I told Woolworth that if prime interest stayed up, and the banks continued forcing another whammy on retail customers by charging the highest interest rates on consumer loans in decades, that the industry was doomed, and I estimated Terry could survive another 2 years.
Also, IRS had taken away the people's tax deduction on interest for car and boat loans. As I recall, we closed up shop 22 months later. However, we continued manufacturing aluminum boats and put other company's names on them. For instance, Bass Tracker, Sears, and several others.

I left the company. It was a real shame, but 35% of America's boat mfg. companies went out of business over that 2 year period. When Terry/Delhi cut back it wiped out the little town of Delhi, La., pop. about 1700, many of which were employed at our plant.

Did Terry/Delhi go out of business, or what?
As mentioned, they did go out of business per-say. Woolworth's, the parent company, stopped the fiberglass line. For your info Woolworth's also owned a company called "Woodstream". They were/are the makers of Victor Mouse traps plus the world's largest line of fur and big animal traps sold world wide.

As for seeing hulls that looked like Terry's, this is quite possible or maybe even probable. Many smaller bass boat companies got into business by "splashing" (copying) another company's hull. This saved thousands of dollars in design and tooling and I never heard of anyone getting proscecuted for it. I know of at least 2 companies who splashed our hulls. If you take them to court they immediately file bankruptcy and are gone. Only to pop up later under another company name. The state of Louisiana is full of "garage" boat companies who make one at a time and are often without Coast Guard or BIA certification, OR manufacturer's liability insurance.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:26 pm to
Part Two:

Our aluminum boats were the biggest sellers nationally and as I said earlier, their production was continued. We made aluminum boats for Bass Pro Shops, Bass Tracker, Sears, Montgomery Wards, and several other companies. Our aluminum boats were amongst the best "store chainline" boats ever built. The aluminum we used was thicker than anyone else's. As in our high end glass boats quality was our goal. In the glass boats we did things like put an .004 thick extra coat of clear gel to protect the paint and metal flake from UHV (fading), small scratches, and make the boat easier to clean and keep clean. We were very proud of our hatch and live well door hinges. If you noticed, they were chrome plated and held in place by bolts with self locking nuts. Ranger, and the rest used those cheap, stamped "piano" hinges that were hard to tighten and harder to replace. We used a better grade of pumps in our live wells and bilges, and much more. We even sprayed over the exposed fiberglass in the fuel compartment with clear gel.

Your ABF, probably a '76 model had the strongest hull in the business. It was also the fastest though the Coast Guard limited it to about 120hp, as I recall. My '76 ABF demo sported a 115 horse Evilrude that had been reworked by Gene Wallentiny. I was putting out somewhere around 180 hp and I couldn't tear the transom out of it, and I tried!

In '75 we hired Gar Wood Jr. as our hull designer. Gar's dad worked with England's Sir Malcom Campbell on the "Bluebird" which held the world's water speed record for quite some time. Gar did a magnificent job on all his boats, but the '76 ABF was the strongest, heaviest, yet fastest given the proper horsepower that it was designed for. To our chagrin the Coast Guard wouldn't let us hang a bigger engine simply because of their length and width formula for determining maximum "safe" horsepower. But, in the 9 months I drove that demo (with the tricked 115 for show) it was never outrun. I sold a lot of boats in California when word got out that the ABF had outrun Ranger's 17'5" pad boat equipped with the then new 200hp Evilrude. It even ran away and hid from Monark's little 15' tunnel hull with a 150 Merc on it.

I used to customize Evinrude's SST propellers by reforming the blades over a trailer ball with a hammer and a lot of patience, giving them a deeper cup along the spine and tips of the blades. These props were usually good for another 5mph or so. I got the idea from my good friend Woody Everett who was a Ranger dealer in Phoenix. He had retired and began playing with boats when he sold his company and invention...the Everett Ditch Witch. He was an old cowboy type, sharp as a razor, and humble as could be. You'd never know he had 2 cents to rub together...one of the last of a dying breed of men and a true friend.

Any brochures, manuals, pictures remaining?
There may be...somewhere, but I have none. A while back I ran across a '77 brochure in an old briefcase. '77 was the year we switched to measuring with the metric system. The 17 1/2' boat was named the "5.3" meter...the high performance 15 1/2' became the "4.7" meter boat. These were all called "Pad Boats". The term was derived from the fact that if properly powered, propped, engine height set correctly, and the weight distributed as far aft as possible, at full speed the boat would rise from the water and actually ride on the pad which was a small area midline at the transom, appx. 14" or so wide, and depending on the setup only the rear couple of feet of the pad remained in the water. As you can imagine this eleminated a bunch of drag in the water because very little boat was in the water. The results were some awsome speeds! The ABF demo I told you about would run between 65 and 70 mph at about 500' above sea level, which is another speed variable.

In '78 we introduced the 6.2 meter boat (almost 21'). To me this was the epitome of bass boats. It sounds too big, but it's size never caused me a problem. It wasn't as fast as the smaller pad boats but with an Evinrude 225 it would hit about 62mph with one of my customized SST props. But it was so comfortable and dry. A great boat for lakes Powell or Mead...or for going after yellow tail near San Diego. It would take big water like a cork.


Posted by Itismemc
LA
Member since Nov 2008
4718 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:00 pm to
That's neat.

You can get a sales brocure on EBAY, Wish they scanned the whole thing in

Ebay
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16440 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:41 pm to
My uncle had one, Its the boat I learned to fish out of. That old white Evinrude was a smoky bitch , Great memories are flooding back. THANKS
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
2249 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:40 pm to
Cool read. Those old codgers were a different breed. They pushed the technology limits of boat capability and horsepower.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5141 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 5:42 pm to
Grandparents had a Terry bass boat with a 70 hp. We all learned to ski behind that thing.

A couple memories stick out

Remember one day I was in the back of the boat and we were going under the Lea Joiner bridge in Monroe. Pawpaw was eating peanut M&Ms and something hit me in the face. I got it off my face and It was wet and nasty and I thought he spit out some M&Ms and but he was cracking up because a pigeon had shite on my face!

We used to fish from the bank all the time with my other grandparents so going on the boat was like Christmas. One day My uncle took me in the terry bass to some backwater of ouachita and got on a bream bed. I was wearing them out and he wasn’t catching many well I started to talk a little smack. That bastard pulled up the anchor and spun the boat around and started wearing them out Found out what “front ending” meant that day lmao
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19442 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 5:48 pm to
Good stuff.

One reason it went "sour" was the fact that Ranger partnered with BASS, which goes to show you that marketing trumps product quality many times.

Interesting also is the fact that at one time 50% of the deer stand market was headquartered in Delhi and Waterproof. Amaker, Strongbuilt and API
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5141 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 5:58 pm to
Werent duracraft boats made in Delhi as well?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19442 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Werent duracraft boats made in Delhi as well?


Yep. I had one.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81621 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Strongbuilt
Tracy Killen's brother?
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18223 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:26 pm to
I have a duracraft 14ft Jon that was my grandfather’s. It’s probably 45 years old.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56262 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:27 pm to
Amaker had a shop south of Tallulah, correct
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13878 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:32 pm to
Ken was the owner of strongbuilt.


Speaking of boats, there was a boat factory in Winnsboro, too.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 6:33 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 6:35 pm to
Cool, good stuff
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37745 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:44 pm to
Good read. Pops had one I grew up fishing in. Seems like all the boats back then were Terry Basses
Posted by Walkerdog14
Member since Dec 2014
1213 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 7:47 pm to
I remember that we had a dealer in Bastrop, Ed Cain sold Terry bass boats
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3012 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:28 pm to
That is correct. His ole house is the Poverty Point Lake Commission house on the lake
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1818 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:08 pm to
We had a duracraft growing up. Great memories from that boat.

Eveytime I think about a terry the front seats with stick steering comes to Mind.
Posted by Molliehawk1
Cenla
Member since Dec 2013
47 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:48 pm to
My dad had one growing up in Baton Rouge (1978-86) ABF 15, had an 85 Javelin/Johnson on the back. Fished many a weekend on blind river, old river, the spillway (Belle River, Pigeon, Sorrel), and Lake Verret. Thought I was king of the world, wish I could go back and be with my Dad just one more day in that boat. Sure do miss him! Thanks, for the story.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/19/21 at 5:07 am to
quote:

Jimmy Carter had allowed prime interest rates to go to well above 13% to 14%.


quote:

Terry/Delhi cut back it wiped out the little town of Delhi, La., pop. about 1700, many of which were employed at our plant.


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