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Storing loaded magazines with zip lock bags (or alternative) question
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:49 am
I keep the majority of my ammo stored in mags and boxes in metal and plastic ammo cans with oxygen absorbers inside in a climate controlled environment. Seems like that’s a pretty common and acceptable method of storage. Well I’d like to keep some loaded magazines in my main gun bag so I don’t need to dig and reload and just be ready to head to the range. This bag stays climate controlled most of the time (never gets left in the car for sure) but I’m new to the firearm game and I didn’t want to just leave ammo out unsealed for potentially long amount of time if there’s an easy way to keep it sealed and fresh.
So my first thought was to keep the magazines tightly sealed up in a ziplock bag with an oxygen absorber inside. Is this good enough? Unnecessary? Or is there a better method I should use for storing a few mags this way? Obviously an ammo can won’t fit in the bag.
TIA
So my first thought was to keep the magazines tightly sealed up in a ziplock bag with an oxygen absorber inside. Is this good enough? Unnecessary? Or is there a better method I should use for storing a few mags this way? Obviously an ammo can won’t fit in the bag.
TIA
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:55 am to jlovel7
Ammo will be fine if it’s mostly in a climate controlled environment. No need to seal it and all that.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:01 am to biglego
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Ammo will be fine if it’s mostly in a climate controlled environment. No need to seal it and all that.
Any idea of in it spends time not in a climate controlled environment how long it takes to really affect the performance?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:10 am to jlovel7
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spends time not in a climate controlled environment how long it takes to really affect the performance?
Temperature affects the performance.
If moisture gets to the ammo it won’t fire. How long does it take to do that? Getting wet one time.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:24 am to jlovel7
Modern powders are stable.
No need to worry too much.
No need to worry too much.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
How long in a Walmart bag in my garage?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:46 am to civiltiger07
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Temperature affects the performance.
Extreme temperatures do, temperatures you wouldn't survive at for very long and will never find in Louisiana.
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If moisture gets to the ammo it won’t fire. How long does it take to do that? Getting wet one time.
If the ammo is military surplus then, covered in 10 cm of water in a vacuum chamber for 24 hours, it shouldn't gain more than 0.01 grams of moisture. It will still fire though.
Even commercial pistol and rifle ammo is basically hermetically sealed and unless left soaking in water for hours it will be fine. I've seen ammo exposed to salt-fog tests that still fired once some of the crud was scraped off.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:52 am to Clames
Damn baw you got all in the weeds.
When I said temperature affects the performance I mean it affects the velocity. They do have powders now that aren’t affected very much but some powders are.
I was not implying that temperature changes could cause the ammo to not fire if that’s what you thought.
And if water gets into the case it won’t fire. How long does that take? I don’t know but it only takes once.
When I said temperature affects the performance I mean it affects the velocity. They do have powders now that aren’t affected very much but some powders are.
I was not implying that temperature changes could cause the ammo to not fire if that’s what you thought.
And if water gets into the case it won’t fire. How long does that take? I don’t know but it only takes once.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:12 am to jlovel7
Just keep in your bag as is. No need for putting it in plastic bags.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:14 am to jlovel7
Wrap in cling wrap, put in Tupperware, store in vegetable drawer of refrigerator.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:16 am to civiltiger07
The least reliable ammo I’ve ever shot is 22lr. Usually have about 2-3 duds per brick. I’ve run two loaded mags through the washing machine on accident and all but one fired. So to extrapolate with fake math it doesn’t really statistically matter.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:18 am to AmosMosesAndTwins
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Wrap in cling wrap, put in Tupperware, store in vegetable drawer of refrigerator.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:25 am to tenfoe
Guess I should have said if water gets in the ammo to the primer/powder it won’t fire. I didn’t mean that if the outside of the case got wet it wouldn’t fire.
That is why I said I don’t know how long it would take for moisture to get in the case.
The moral of the story for the OP is that what you are doing will be fine. In fact you are probably over thinking this.
That is why I said I don’t know how long it would take for moisture to get in the case.
The moral of the story for the OP is that what you are doing will be fine. In fact you are probably over thinking this.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 12:31 pm to jlovel7
I think you’re overthinking it. It takes long exposure to humidity/ elements to really do damage. We’re talking years.
I plinked some 10 year old ammo that’s been sitting in my camp today. The camp is only climate controlled when I’m there. Everything fired.
I plinked some 10 year old ammo that’s been sitting in my camp today. The camp is only climate controlled when I’m there. Everything fired.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 12:50 pm to jlovel7
I always save any silica packets I get that come with anything I buy and keep them with wherever I have ammo that I don't plan on using anytime soon. Probably doesn't really matter, but.....whatever.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:46 pm to Notnac
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I think you’re overthinking it. It takes long exposure to humidity/ elements to really do damage. We’re talking years.
I plinked some 10 year old ammo that’s been sitting in my camp today. The camp is only climate controlled when I’m there. Everything fired.
Sounds good enough for me
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:51 pm to jlovel7
I shot some WWII surplus (maybe Korea) Garand ammo and it was fine.
Also, I know what you meant but a desicant pack absorbs moisture not oxygen. I mean, if it absorbed all the oxygen what would we breathe.
Also, I know what you meant but a desicant pack absorbs moisture not oxygen. I mean, if it absorbed all the oxygen what would we breathe.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 2:21 pm to jlovel7
If hold on to ammo long enough to worry about that, then you are shooting fast enough. I have shot some of my dads ammo that he probably bought 30 years ago. No issues.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 2:23 pm to civiltiger07
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When I said temperature affects the performance I mean it affects the velocity.
Those tempertures require a significant delta and are a non issue unless you are a sniper or competition long-range shooter.
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And if water gets into the case it won’t fire. How long does that take? I don’t know but it only takes once.
It would have to be underwater, for a while, to have any potential effect. I store my loose ammo in good ammo cans, the stuff still in boxes just goes in the ammo cabinet above the safe. My house is a climte-controlled environment so there's no reason to do more.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 2:59 pm to Clames
quote:Subtle, "I have air conditioning," brag.
My house is a climte-controlled
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I store my loose ammo in good ammo cans, the stuff still in boxes just goes in the ammo cabinet above the safe.
Not so subtle, "I have ammo," brag.
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