re: Scope Help- Explain this stuff to me like I'm five

There are some really good deals on trijicons on euro optic

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Reliability trumps both.

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I don’t disagree, but it’s prettymuch a given that a scope needs to not be a piece of shite. What non-vortex scope above poverty tier are you having real reliability issues with in the year 2023? I am hard on all my shite, hunt probably 40+ days a year, and have never had an issue I could blame on a scope’s mechanical function. I’ve yanked a trigger and blamed a scope, like most people whose scope won’t “hold zero”. The scopes that actually have those issues are, low and behold, usually super high magnification and objective size for the price point which is why I told OP to prioritize a solid name and good glass at lower magnification.

Just make one for free lol

Lots of good advice on here OP.

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Scope manufactures are not building durable scopes. They build scopes for light weight, fancy glass, other "features" that help sell scopes. The majority of them will not reliably handle being dropped, banged, vibrated, etc.

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Maybe leupold quality has taken a shite and they’re to be avoided, but come on dude. You’re talking like swaros, ziess, mavens and meoptas are gonna have shite rattling around inside them after normal trips, that’s just not the case. Your POI can shift due to a long list of environmental factors. To act like reputable scopes not holding zero or tracking are widespread issues causing people to shoot over the top of animals, and that only nightforce and trijicon have figured out how to solve them is disingenuous. Those dudes on rokslide are gear junkies, they’re throwing thousands of dollars at minimal improvement at the far end of diminishing returns. If you wanna shoot elk at 800 yards then by all means obsess along with them, but you better be learning about a lot more than what scope has the best guts.

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You've NEVER had to adjust zero after a hunting season in 40 years? Never had a scope not adjust exactly as you asked it to? I am skeptical.

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I’m not 40 years old, I said I hunt 40 days a year on average and have never “babied” a scope. It’s just not that big of a deal.

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just got a Meopta Optika 6 for $459 shipped. 30mm tube,

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Gotta link?

ETA: Nvm

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Leupold vx 5
3-15x44

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This is where I think I'm headed. One thing all this research has shown me is that people get real divided on this stuff in a hurry. A LEO buddy is over the moon about Nightforce and Vortex. A long-range shooter/hunter buddy said he wouldn't be caught dead with either. Theres plenty of shade thrown at Leupold but seems to be less than most other mass-produced brand out there.

I recently put two Sierra3 BDXs on a couple of my rifles. Awesome scopes.

Leupold’s problems arose when shooters started dialing and realized that they often didn’t return to zero.

MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. – U.S. special operations experts needed standard and long-range daylight and nighttime rifle scopes for special operations warfighters. They found their solution from Nightforce Optics Inc. in Orofino, Idaho.

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My crusade is for deer hunters to have a decent or better pair of binoculars. You’ll look through binos a whole lot more than a rifle scope. And it helps to prevent accidentally scoping a human.

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I just got a Meopta Optika 6 for $459 shipped. 30mm tube, 2.5-15x44 in BDC reticle, European made.

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I put this exact scope on my .270. I liked the scope so much, I replaced the Leica on my 7mm WSM with the 3.5 - 18x56 Optika 6.