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Restaurant Lobby Fighting State Control of Red Snapper

Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2333 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:48 pm
As expected, restaurant lobby fighting legislation to allow state control of fisheries, specifically red snapper.

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Fishing for support: A coalition of Gulf Coast chefs and restaurant owners is urging lawmakers to vote against a federal fisheries bill that reauthorizes a law passed in 1976 to govern federal fisheries. In a letter, members of the coalition—who hail from New Orleans, Lake Charles, Lafayette and even Tennessee—say the bill, which normally enjoys bipartisan support, was marked up in a committee and now increases the risk of overfishing in the Gulf. The bill is likely to be brought to the House floor and voted on during the current session.


Restaurant Lobby Letter
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24986 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:53 pm to
screw them
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:59 pm to
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:03 pm to
Does the CCA get involved in this?
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1024 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:04 pm to
What a joke
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30008 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Does the CCA get involved in this?


if they do it will be to eliminate recreation fishing all together, thats all CCA is about is restricting fishing rights, never about changes based on science that says more fishing should be allowed because the resource is healthy
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2333 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:33 pm to
I would agree with you most times, but not in this case. CCA is 100% in favor of state control of the red snapper fishery (disclaimer: I am not a CCA member). They have been helping push US congressional legislation with Garret Graves (H.R. 200 and H.R. 2023) and state legislation. They were against the test pilot program last year for harvest reporting since only a select few would have the opportunity to catch a certain quota.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30008 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 4:50 pm to
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I would agree with you most times, but not in this case.


CCA is opposed to ending oyster dredges in favor of tonging

CCA is opposed to ending all marsh being made private and off limits to the public

CCA is opposed to increasing limits on redfish and drum when every scientific study says its needed for a healthy fish stocks and massive overpopulation is devastating the crab and oysters stocks to the point of needing drastic regulations to save them.

i just have not seen CCA do a damn thing that did not in some way or form hurt recreational fishermen.

CCA is not a friend to recreation fishermen or louisiana in general. the do thing that favor texas fishermen first and foremost above all else and are a political lobbying group for commercial interests and large private land owners who want to own and or control all natural resources for the restricted use of a few select chosen people to manipulate and benefit from.

maybe, just maybe, somehow they are on the right side on a few select things but i see no reason to trust them any more then i would trust a crack whore/meth head prostitute
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 4:53 pm
Posted by FunroePete
The Big Cheezy
Member since Dec 2012
1531 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:41 pm to
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keakar

What in the frick are you talking about?

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CCA is opposed to ending oyster dredges in favor of tonging

Says right here you're full of shite

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CCA is opposed to ending all marsh being made private and off limits to the public

thats private land how could they even do anything regarding that?

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CCA is opposed to increasing limits on redfish and drum when every scientific study says its needed for a healthy fish stocks and massive overpopulation is devastating the crab and oysters stocks to the point of needing drastic regulations to save them.


dont disagree with the redfish part. you're wrong on the oyster part in several states

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i just have not seen CCA do a damn thing that did not in some way or form hurt recreational fishermen.

what?
https://www.joincca.org/projects
https://www.joincca.org/newsletterBCT2013
https://www.ccalouisiana.com/cca11/index.php/artificial-reefs

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the do thing that favor texas fishermen first

they're a texas organization no shite


where are you getting your opinions from? i see almost no validity to them except the redfish part
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:53 pm to
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keakar


You sound like a drunk at the fish camp. CCA is by no means perfect but just about everything you've said is bullshite.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5142 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:07 pm to
Which CCA committee member cucked you?
Posted by stoms
Coastal
Member since May 2012
1729 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:13 pm to
Pretty simple. Don't eat at any of the places you deem to be anti-recreational fisherman. Hated seeing Brennan on there

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Mark Alleman, Hook and Boil, Lafayette, LA
Mimi Assad, Bar Frances, New Orleans, LA
Dickie Brennan, Dickie Brennan & Co. Restaurant Group, New Orleans, LA
Brian Burns, Peche Seafood Grill, New Orleans, LA
Adrian Chelette, Ancora, New Orleans, LA
Nina Compton, Compere Lapin, New Orleans, LA
Jeremy Conner, Cellar Salt Co., Lafayette, LA
Justin Devillier, La Petite Grocery and Balise, New Orleans, LA
Kristen Essig, Coquette, New Orleans, LA
Jason Goodenough, Carrollton Market, New Orleans, LA
Dana Honn, Cafe Carmo, New Orleans, LA
Michael Hudman, Andrew Michael Italian Kitchen, Memphis, TN
Evan Ingram, Effervescence, New Orleans, LA
Marcus Jacobs, Marjie’s Grill, New Orleans, LA
Charlie Murley, Tacocat, New Orleans, LA
Nadia Ogbor, Little Kitchen, New Orleans, LA
Christopher Okorie, Evening Eats, New Orleans, LA
Loriana Perschall, Coquette, New Orleans, LA
Ernest Prejean, Prejean’s, Lafayette, LA
Ryan Prewitt, Peche Seafood Grill, New Orleans, LA
Nathan Reed, Tacocat, New Orleans, LA
Brenna Sanders, Effervescence, New Orleans, LA
Ryan Schantz, Calla, Lake Charles, LA
Michael Stoltzfus, Coquette, New Orleans, LA
Stephen Stryjewski, Cochon and Cochon Butcher, New Orleans, LA
Andy Ticer, Andrew Michael Italian Kitchen, Memphis, TN
Posted by Reelscreamers
Member since Aug 2011
120 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:21 pm to
The restaurant lobby, the Seafood Promotion and Marketing Board as well as others have long ago drank the EDF cool-aid and are lobbying hard to keep as many fisheries as possible under federal control and headed to catch shares.
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They will continue to do so until you all speak with your voices and your wallets and stop buying finfish at restaurants and grocery stores.
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The funny part is the catch share lobby, specifically the charter boats that are in favor of it are pulling a fast one on the restaurant lobby and they do not even realize it. Dually permitted boats (those permitted with commercial catch shares but are also charter boats) are currently selling charter trips but using their commercial catch shares. Basically they are using their customers to catch the fish and fill their commercial orders but catching more fish than needed for the order and selling them back to the customer through the fish house at retail instead of wholesale prices. These guys know that they can get more money from the individual than the wholesale market and are just waiting for this to expand, taking more fish off of the restaurant's tables.
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The department of labor has said that the practice is illegal but will not investigate because they do not meet the threshold for the number of employees.
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Don't purchase wild caught finfish from markets or restaurants!
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:18 pm to
And why was it fair to give more days to charter captains the the rec guys got?

Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25982 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:22 pm to
Thank you I go to Coquette all of the time and now will boycott their restaurant.
Posted by rustyjohnson
LP
Member since Oct 2009
429 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:07 am to
SIAP but former Gov. Foster specifically called them out in this nola.com op ed LINK

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Chefs, restaurateurs and commercial fishers brazenly and without merit accuse recreational fishers and federal and state lawmakers who are advancing badly-needed reforms of federal recreational fisheries management of being "unaccountable" and "irresponsible."


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These chefs and commercial operators are being plied, sometimes paid, by very well-funded environmental groups from outside of Louisiana, like the Environmental Defense Fund.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 7:30 am to
The EDF has always been a front for the commercial fishing lobby, good that someone is finally putting that in print.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2575 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:21 pm to
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CCA is opposed to ending oyster dredges in favor of tonging


its off subject, but this really grinds my gears. I was doing my daily internet scouting by by camp in cocodrie, and I fount this disturbing image. you can see where the oyster boats have destroyed the islands and habitat.


And here is what I found on Craigslist.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Wilson
Metairie
Member since Jul 2011
240 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:16 pm to
$40 a pound? And that's without the purchaser's markup. Who pays that much for red snapper?
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 6:19 pm to
Yeah frick that. You shouldn't be able to sell those shares.
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