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re: Request Admins to do a CWD sticky MEGA thread
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:23 pm to Chuker
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:23 pm to Chuker
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Although I still don't get why so many take offense to banning baiting despite that is what biologists recommend. If it helps a bit then isn't that worth it?
Because I think it distracts from more productive efforts and injects agendas. It's no secret baiting has been a hot button issue in MS long before CWD showed up. CWD is being politicized as an excuse to argue against baiting. I don't particularly care about baiting but I don't want to see them get wrapped up into the same thing. Science needs to drive the CWD discussion, not politics.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:32 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
But it might, and we don't understand the disease or its implications yet. Let's stop helping it until we do.
I personally dont think it's a big issue. I think it is natural population density control and I dont think you'll see it prevalent forever. It might get bad, but I dont think itll stay bad. We have much less habitat left for deer than we had 50 years ago so there will have to be less deer. We prop up the populations for hunting, but we cant prop up past a plague. We should quit propping it up IMO
I personally dont think it's a big issue. I think it is natural population density control and I dont think you'll see it prevalent forever. It might get bad, but I dont think itll stay bad. We have much less habitat left for deer than we had 50 years ago so there will have to be less deer. We prop up the populations for hunting, but we cant prop up past a plague. We should quit propping it up IMO
Posted on 12/31/18 at 3:17 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
There’s a school of thought that baiting will help fight CWD. The deer will range less for food, therefore spreading it less. I don’t really buy it. But I also don’t won’t to arbitrarily do things because of the need to do something.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 12:18 am to 257WBY
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why did this start and spread in N Colorado and Wyoming? You don’t see many feeders out there.
It started in Colorado and Wyoming because that is where it was created in research facilities then escaped into the Wild. Fort Collins in Colorado and Sybille in Wyoming. Researchers started the whole damn thing.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:29 am to lsu13lsu
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Researchers started the whole damn thing.
I've never seen anything definitive on this. It first was discovered at a Co research facility. Doesn't mean it was "created" there. It is odd that Co seems to be the epicenter of the disease though. But it could be that it first mutated from scarpie in Co and that would make sense that a research center in that state would be the first to be affected.
As already been mentioned before, Cwd has been found in Norway as well. Possible it could've been transferred from here to all the way over there but it seems unlikely.
Maybe just something that happens when deer get overpopulated. Or maybe something that happens every 25,000 years and decimates all but a few of the genetically resistant ones that carry on the population.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:36 am to Chuker
Yeah the rumor is they were testing scrapie on mule deer. When they figured out it spread it was too late as is the case with CWD. It takes a while to show up.
I don’t believe a government agency from the 60s would come clean on that.
I don’t believe a government agency from the 60s would come clean on that.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:43 am to lsu13lsu
It is curious for sure. But we don't have anything other than the rumors.
And you would still have to figure out how it showed up in Norway/Finland.....I forget which one.
And you would still have to figure out how it showed up in Norway/Finland.....I forget which one.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 11:00 am to MSWebfoot
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Get the processors involved.
THIS
Posted on 1/1/19 at 8:52 pm to Chuker
And the camels in the Middle East.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:15 pm to 257WBY
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Doesn’t really matter, though. I’ll save them a lot of trouble and tell them that CWD is here. And nothing they’re doing is making a difference.
If corn is the problem, why did this start and spread in N Colorado and Wyoming? You don’t see many feeders out there.
It is being spread by Vultures who are eating the carcasses. I can’t believe no one is mentioning this on this forum.
Posted on 1/1/19 at 10:30 pm to MrLSU
Maybe in localized areas. High possibility it is jumping whole regions and states from mud on hunters boots.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:15 am to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:55 pm to biggsc
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A disease that is always fatal to whitetail deer is moving closer to Alabama. Cases of Chronic Wasting Disease have been confirmed in Hardeman and Fayette counties in southern Tennessee and Pontotoc County in northeastern Mississippi. The counties are not contiguous to Alabama, but they are close enough to sound alarm bells. Hunting generates a $1.8 billion annual economic impact in Alabama, and deer are the state's most poplar game animal, according to the Hunting Heritage Foundation. Deer harvested the the northwestern Alabama counties of Franklin, Marion, Lauderdale and Colbert are being singled out for sampling by the Alabama Department of Conservation. These counties are contiguous to southern Tennessee and northeastern Mississippi, where the cases have been confirmed. State biologists will also sample deer from surrounding Alabama counties as well.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:13 pm to biggsc
Doesn't deserve a sticky if you understand how prion's in the soil and contact with them work. Its no where near the epidemic they want you to believe. Sorry not sorry
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