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Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:29 am
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17319 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:29 am
Dipping my toe into handloading specifically for small batch rifle accuracy, looking to pick up a manual to get familiar before I go buying a bunch of shite I don't need. What's a good comprehensive book that will focus mainly on larger rifle calibers and the load possibilities for them? Had my eye on the Nosler but reviews say they only focus on their bullets, and that the Lyman is a little bit behind the times with bullet construction and powders. TIA
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:57 am to
The Lyman book is a good starting point, or really any of the books by companies that make reloading equipment. As you pointed out Hornady, Nosler, or other bullet manufacturers manuals only focus on their products. Eventually you will end up with all of the manuals, as I have, but the Lyman is a good starting point.
Posted by malleus
The Boot
Member since Oct 2010
65 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:42 am to
Lyman , Sierra , or even Lee even though it’s been out a while are good books to start on
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17319 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 12:35 pm to
Thanks, sounds like I'll start with the Lyman and branch out from there.
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1575 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 1:03 pm to
I have the nosler and Hornady books bc that’s all I shoot. Between those, you tube videos and a knowledgeable friend as a resource, I was able to get started
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6812 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 2:18 pm to
TDT,
Welcome to the world of hand loading. I'm sure you'll find it enjoyable and satisfying. Remember, the most important thing is SAFETY! I've been hand loading 35 years or so. During that time I've used all the factory handling manuals except for Barnes and Lee. The main thing reason for handling manuals nowadays is to learn safe loading procedures. While the load data is very important, you can get that elsewhere, frequently for free. In addition, while I enjoy reading the history of each cartridge in the manual, I can find also find that elsewhere. The manuals are the single best source of safe handloading information. Read them carefully and learn it by heart. An experienced mentor, if available, is invaluable. The three newest loading manuals I have are Sierra ('05), Nosler ('07) and Hornady ('10). While all have good info on how to safely handload, Sierra looked the best, followed closely by Hornady. One neat thing about the Sierra manual is it's form: it comes in a three ring binder that stays open and is easy to replace or add pages. Other sources of good load data are available on the 'net at the websites for Hornady, Hodgdon, Nosler, Accurate/Western Powders and Alliant. In addition, one can also request a free written pamphlet of load data from them. Of course, one can find personal load data all over the 'net, but beware of that until you're an experience bandleader. Last, Hodgdon publishes a large magazine of load data every year featuring most of their data, especially newer powders. One can usually find it at the magazine section of Bass Pro, book stores , Walmart and grocery stores (sometimes). In addition, be aware that powders change over time. Because of this, I also check the current load data (using the manufacturer web sites) against the load data in the manual if it's an older manual. ALL load data you see is merely a reference from their gun, NOT a "written in stone" recipe for your gun.

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Had my eye on the Nosler but reviews say they only focus on their bullets

That's true, but all do the same thing and it's ok. For example, the Hornady manual will list 308 Win loads for 150 gr bullets using ony their bullets. But, if I'm loading for the 150 gr Nosler AccuBond in my 308 Win, it's safe to use the Hornady data as a reference since I'm working up the load using incremental powder charges.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17319 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 2:44 pm to
Thanks, I've been doing my homework as best as I can and am certainly not looking to push the limits, just tinker with the guns I have and see if they could be better. The sheer amount of info out there is overwhelming and comes from various perspectives, from guys loading PRS match ammo to those turning out thousands of plinking rounds, it's hard to find that middle ground. My deer season is effectively over so I figure there's no hurry, might as well start reading.
Posted by Judge Smails
Native Son of NELA
Member since Mar 2008
5518 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 2:54 pm to
Get a subscription to loaddata.com and compile your own reloading book. Massive amounts of data available from various manuals and manufacturers.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24996 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:00 pm to
I’m not sure how long I’ve been reloading now. 5 years is a decent guess.

I’ve never had a manual. Everything I’ve done I’ve learned off the internet.

I like to read something and then verify that info prior to trying it, since this could be some pretty dangerous stuff.

If you have questions, please don’t hesitate. I’m always looking to learn something new with reloading.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:09 pm to
Lee Classic Load Kit is everything you need (besides a nylon hammer) to get started. It's slow but works very well and can make some very accurate loads.
Posted by mfiredog
Stonewall
Member since Oct 2016
681 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 7:30 pm to
If you have a smartphone download the Sierra App. (Free) lots of good info on there just as another reference.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 8:11 pm to
For a single caliber, the yellow cover $15 books are good. It's a compilation of different companies manuals. Much of it is dated but still relevant and will give you the most options for one caliber.

I only load .45 colt, .30-06 and .30-30 and those single caliber books are my bibles.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30791 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

I’m not sure how long I’ve been reloading now. 5 years is a decent guess.

I’ve never had a manual. Everything I’ve done I’ve learned off the internet.

I like to read something and then verify that info prior to trying it, since this could be some pretty dangerous stuff.

If you have questions, please don’t hesitate. I’m always looking to learn something new with reloading.


Agreed, I have a lee manual, but really only use it to verify. I always start with a weak load and work it up.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8750 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 9:26 pm to
One reloading manual isn’t enough as you’ll need 2 or 3 to compare data between bullets, powder charges, and velocity. As others have mentioned, you can get lots of reloading data off the inet from component manufacturers ... Nosler, Berger, Alliant, Ramshot, Sierra, Vihta Vouri, etc...

Write down everything in a notebook and document, document, document ! Make sure you have a reliable scale as a beam is more accurate than digital. IMO, the single most important tool in reloading is a chronograph. Published velocities (fps) in reloading manuals is a ballpark number and can only be 100% verified by using a chronograph. It will tell you if your loads are to hot, how accurate select powders are, and will help you find the accuracy node.

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24996 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

IMO, the single most important tool in reloading is a chronograph. Published velocities (fps) in reloading manuals is a ballpark number and can only be 100% verified by using a chronograph. It will tell you if your loads are to hot, how accurate select powders are, and will help you find the accuracy node.


I agree with this completely.

I have and prefer the Labradar

Also learn to spot signs of pressure in your brass so you know when you’re getting too hot.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:03 pm to
As for as loading data goes, Lee does not do their own testing. They compile data from various sources.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

I have and prefer the Labradar


I also have a LabRadar and it is an integral part of my reloading tools. Especially for long range shooting. Instead of guessing muzzle velocity based on load data you know the actual average muzzle velocity and a simple tune of a knob I can got from 100yd to 200yd in 1 shot.
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1276 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:46 pm to
Handloader magazine is also a good source of info.
I will encourage you to buy the best equipment you can afford. The buy once cry once saying applies here.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2686 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:06 pm to
Nosler manual came with my RCBS kit. Lots of good info and how to's. The load data for the cartridges is on the website but not commentary on what works best, advice, etc. Strictly nosler bullets, obviously, like Speer and Sierra manuals. Was able to get load data from Berger and Hodgsons websites for my rifle, but you dont get commentary or advice on each cartridge from the websites, gotta buy the book. Cross checking nosler, berger, and Hodgson's load data for my 30 nosler showed some interesting differences. Flipped thru a berger manual, nothing there that I couldn't get off their website. I was looking for a manual that could explain the process itself for accuracy...but have been reading a lot of web articles. You have to sift through a lot of info that doesn't pertain to your situation but I found Chuck Hawks website articles to be helpful along with the Speer manual.

Get a chronograph. I splurged on the Labradar, it's awesome accurate. Also, it sits next to your rifle on the bench and you dont have to shoot thru it. It has a SIM card slot to store shot series.

My dad's been doing this for 40+ yrs, and still refers back to Ken Waters Pet Loads and the Speer manual. I call him all the time with questions. Like others have said, its great to know someone that has experience in this. Pet Loads won't have the most recent powders or cartridges, but it has a lot of other good info about bullet weight, twist rates, characteristics of each cartridge. The bullet manuals aren't partial to powders, and the powder manuals aren't partial to bullet mfrs, if that makes sense. That's why you need to research a few different sources for your load and extrapolate what you want to do.
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 11:53 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17319 posts
Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:37 pm to
Thanks all for the info, yall have given me a lot to chew on. Didn't realize we had so many reloaders here.
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