- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Reloading Data 30-06 225 gr hpbt
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:33 am
Got back into reloading recently and found some 225 gr bullets. Has anyone worked up a good pet load for these? I'm trying to keep shots to under 100 yards and will probably be used for nuisance animals.
6
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:41 am to BarryMcCokner
My manual only goes up to 220 grain. 3.250” OAL
Here is the data for that load . Not sure about 225.
Starting load 21 gr of IMR-4198 1601 FPS...
pressure 19100.
Max load 30 grains of IMR-4198 1997 FPS
Pressure 30800
There are others if you need more info. That’s straight out of the Lyman 49th edition. I would buy a manual if you are serious about reloading.
Here is the data for that load . Not sure about 225.
Starting load 21 gr of IMR-4198 1601 FPS...
pressure 19100.
Max load 30 grains of IMR-4198 1997 FPS
Pressure 30800
There are others if you need more info. That’s straight out of the Lyman 49th edition. I would buy a manual if you are serious about reloading.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:21 pm to BarryMcCokner
Barry, have you shot 225 gr in a 30-06? They kick like a mule in my rifles.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:27 pm to Deerhunter62
I havent in a 06 but i have in a mosin. it does kick but im working up pet loads.... ie subsonic
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:36 pm to BarryMcCokner
Trail Boss will be your friend for subs in .30-06
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:44 pm to bbvdd
Any idea how many grains to start with? 10? 12?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:25 pm to BarryMcCokner
I really don't know.
It shows on their page using 150gr bullets a starting load of 13.3 grains. Max is 19 grains.
I'd think probably 10-11 grains would be the sweet spot for a starting load with a 225 gr bullet.
It shows on their page using 150gr bullets a starting load of 13.3 grains. Max is 19 grains.
I'd think probably 10-11 grains would be the sweet spot for a starting load with a 225 gr bullet.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:39 pm to bbvdd
I go find some trailboss or similar powder and report back this weekend. My guess is it should work but with everything reloading wise will require some fine tuning. Thanks for your help
Posted on 5/6/19 at 7:54 pm to BarryMcCokner
The thing about trail boss is that it has a lot of mass but not the weight. That way it fills the case and doesn’t leave space in the case
Sub volume for mass.
Sub volume for mass.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:10 pm to BarryMcCokner
Who makes the bullet? If it's Hornady, call them and they will gladly give you the load data. Nosler, Barnes and few others list load data online. Also powder manufacturers list load data also to compare.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:27 pm to BarryMcCokner
quote:
I havent in a 06 but i have in a mosin. it does kick but im working up pet loads.... ie subsonic
So are you looking for supersonic or subsonic loads for the 30-06?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:36 pm to BarryMcCokner
Here are 15 loads from Hodgdon using the heaviest bullet they list, a 220 gr bullet.
Here are 9 loads from Nosler using the heaviest bullet they list, also a 220 gr.
Using all the usual and appropriate safety precautions for hand loading, since you're using a 225 gr bullet, I'd subtract 1 grain from the listed maximums and approach it with caution. If you've been out of handloading a while, I'd suggest buying 1 or 2 manuels; they'll provide lots of good data and also good safety info. I'm curious why you're using a 225 gr bullet?
Here are 9 loads from Nosler using the heaviest bullet they list, also a 220 gr.
Using all the usual and appropriate safety precautions for hand loading, since you're using a 225 gr bullet, I'd subtract 1 grain from the listed maximums and approach it with caution. If you've been out of handloading a while, I'd suggest buying 1 or 2 manuels; they'll provide lots of good data and also good safety info. I'm curious why you're using a 225 gr bullet?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:01 pm to BarryMcCokner
Here’s the most important question - what twist is your barrel ? If it’s to slow such as a 1:11” or 1:12” twist, the heavy bullets may not stabilize resulting in shitty accuracy or key-holing. Optimum twist is 1:10” . Barrel twist can be confirmed on the manufacturers spec sheet, or using the cleaning rod method.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:29 am to Got Blaze
barrel twist is 1:9.5 according to cleaning rod method...spec sheet says 1:10 lol these will stabilize fine. Good point though
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:31 am to TigerOnThe Hill
Higher BC. Think their spec sheet said at G1 it was about .720. I have a bunch of old manuals but they don't have data for 225 gr. I'm going to try trail boss and give y'all an update probably Sunday
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 6:33 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:50 am to BarryMcCokner
The twist rate is also typically stamped directly on the barrel, at least it is for all my ARs. Even my AR10 says “308 Win 1:10” under the compensator at the muzzle.
I am also curious along with TOTH about using 225gr bullets in 30-06. Are you suppressing your rifle? If so, it makes sense. If not, I don’t see why you wouldn’t go supersonic. The muzzle blast will still be plenty loud with subs but will decrease your range and terminal performance considerably.
I am also curious along with TOTH about using 225gr bullets in 30-06. Are you suppressing your rifle? If so, it makes sense. If not, I don’t see why you wouldn’t go supersonic. The muzzle blast will still be plenty loud with subs but will decrease your range and terminal performance considerably.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:15 am to bapple
I'm aware of what subsonic means yes. These are only for shots under 100 probably 50 yards. I'm aware there will be a noise when I pull the trigger. I do not want a supersonic crack. Furthermore, I'm trying to make this barrel last as it is about 80 years old. These pet loads are just something to tool around with and occupy time. Like i said before, these are meant to be pet loads. I'm not trying to knock down Prairie dogs at 1500 yards here.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:47 pm to BarryMcCokner
I do not have a direct answer for you. But consider this. H4895 can be used to create reduced power rifle loads. You will need to research how to do it. Just Google "H4895 reduced loads," and you should find the directions on Hodgdon's website. If you have 225gr load data that lists H4895, then see if the reduced H4895 load recipe will get subsonic. I'd also recommend running the numbers on the more common 200gr and 220gr load data that is available (if you are willing to switch weights).
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:44 pm to BarryMcCokner
quote:
I'm aware of what subsonic means yes. These are only for shots under 100 probably 50 yards. I'm aware there will be a noise when I pull the trigger. I do not want a supersonic crack.
Sounds like you're looking for subsonic loads. In that case, you're not going to find much data from loading manuals. My work computer won't allow me to it, but looks like Hodgdon has load data for subsonic loads using Trail Boss. You'll probably find a lot more data doing a Google search.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News