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Question for deer hunters
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:50 pm
What’s your opinion on shooting Does? How bout does with fawns?This weekend I sat in a blind Saturday morning, Saturday evening and Sunday evening. I hunt/live in Texas, canyon lake area to be exact. It’s bow season and I’m a newbie at it but I’m comfortable with my crossbow up to 35 yards. I had a doe come in within range twice this weekend but never pulled the trigger. The first time she had her fawn directly behind her creating an unethical shot. Today she was back and was right around 38 yards and I had her in my crosshairs but decided against it hoping something else would come in. Nothing did. I sat 3 times this weekend and never pulled the trigger.
I’m relatively new to hunting having only shot 2 deer, one 9 point and one spike, both with slug-guns.
I’m not against shooting does, not at all but is it “ok” to shoot does when they have a fawn in tow? I’m looking to learn and welcome all opinions. It’s a long season and I’m really gonna do my best to take a mature buck, a spike and a doe. TIA
I’m relatively new to hunting having only shot 2 deer, one 9 point and one spike, both with slug-guns.
I’m not against shooting does, not at all but is it “ok” to shoot does when they have a fawn in tow? I’m looking to learn and welcome all opinions. It’s a long season and I’m really gonna do my best to take a mature buck, a spike and a doe. TIA
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Posted on 10/20/19 at 9:53 pm to tigertrueAU
100% need to take does. Helps with mgt... i wouldny shoot any with spots. And personally i dont take any with young fawns. But as long as no spots, it will be fine on its own. Either way, you made right decision being patient and waiting. Better to be safe than sorry.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:02 pm to oleyeller
Thanks. the fawn didn’t have any markings at all, no white spots whatsoever.
Also, Just curious, will the fawn be absorbed into a herd if it’s mother dies? Do they still nurse this late or are they strictly on a forage diet? Sorry if I sound dumb, just trying to learn.
Also, Just curious, will the fawn be absorbed into a herd if it’s mother dies? Do they still nurse this late or are they strictly on a forage diet? Sorry if I sound dumb, just trying to learn.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:02 pm to tigertrueAU
I'll kill a few does every year. But not any with a fawn, buddy did that once many years ago and hearing that thing bleat and bleat and bleat 50 yards away while we loaded its mother into the back of the truck ended that.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:03 pm to tigertrueAU
I hunt west texas. We have strong buck to doe ratio. Never had to take does because we have had plenty of bucks. Now if you're seeing alot of does out while hunting i would advise on taking a doe. But if your not really seeing a ton of deer don't get trigger happy. Now i've heard before that if a doe has a yearling with it in the fall to take it because she wont get bred during rut. The person that also told me that sees atleast 4 does every hunt in Mississippi. So they have too many does.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:04 pm to tigertrueAU
people who shoot does are cowards. They most likely harbor repressed sexual physcological deviance.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:08 pm to tigertrueAU
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Also, Just curious, will the fawn be absorbed into a herd if it’s mother dies? Do they still nurse this late or are they strictly on a forage diet? Sorry if I sound dumb, just trying to learn.
Theyl get in a herd they can forage alone. The deer will be fine. With that said, personally i dont do it (anymore) call me soft as i age but its sad hearing fawn/yearling bleat for its mom. Or just sit in corner of field n watch as you load her up lol
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:12 pm to tigertrueAU
Not sure when your season opened or rut is in your area. But, most modern day deer seasons are set with the dates being so that fawns will be old enough to live if the mother is shot. Not saying the fawn will live with guidance from the doe but it should be able to live.
General rule of thumb if it don’t have spots it’s old enough to live without nursing, coyotes, coonasses may get to it though.
General rule of thumb if it don’t have spots it’s old enough to live without nursing, coyotes, coonasses may get to it though.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:12 pm to TheCurmudgeon
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hearing that thing bleat and bleat and bleat 50 yards away while we loaded its mother into the back of the truck
This. Didn’t even think of this. Like I said I’m ok with killing does but damn that’s haunting. But on the other hand is there any credence to the possibility that the doe won’t be bred with if it has a fawn in tow?
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:13 pm to tigertrueAU
The fawn/yearling will be fine. If the deer no longer has spots, it’s no longer solely dependent on milk from the doe to survive.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:13 pm to tigertrueAU
I try to shoot a couple a year, they taste delicious. Dont shoot if they have a fawn though, they would likely die shortly thereafter if you did. One of those little ones may be a future monster!
Eta: where I hunt we have a late rut and fawns still have spots, have a doe I see often with twins, not shooting her. Like yall I have heard stories of fawns just basically standing there lost after you shot their mom, seems shitty
Eta: where I hunt we have a late rut and fawns still have spots, have a doe I see often with twins, not shooting her. Like yall I have heard stories of fawns just basically standing there lost after you shot their mom, seems shitty
This post was edited on 10/20/19 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:24 pm to Theboot32
From all I’ve read the fawn will be fine.I still don’t do it,seems like a crappy thing to do.
Posted on 10/20/19 at 10:41 pm to tigertrueAU
I sat on a stand one day and had twenty or more does in range. ( was told to shot a doe as was a guest here) I wanted 30 minutes to pick out one without a fawn and when I shot her out pops a fawn. They are weened by now. You should go ahead and shot
Posted on 10/21/19 at 3:13 am to TutHillTiger
As long as the fawns are eating vegetation then it is ok. Hell, the does without fawns are the ones that are more likely to actually have an unweened fawn stashed somewhere.
Most seasons are set up so that the fawns are good to go when the season starts.
Most seasons are set up so that the fawns are good to go when the season starts.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:18 am to tigertrueAU
Season dates are structured so that most fawns will survive without their mother. It’s also good management to kill does early in the season so that their is more food available for the rest of the herd.
A doe with a fawn will be bred that fall in almost all cases.
Your fawn no longer had spots. You should’ve killed the doe. In your part of Texas, there are far too many deer. Thin them out and enjoy the venison.
Watch the fawn. Does it feed like other deer? If so, it will survive.
A doe with a fawn will be bred that fall in almost all cases.
Your fawn no longer had spots. You should’ve killed the doe. In your part of Texas, there are far too many deer. Thin them out and enjoy the venison.
Watch the fawn. Does it feed like other deer? If so, it will survive.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:40 am to tigertrueAU
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as long as no spots, it will be fine on its own
Posted on 10/21/19 at 1:30 pm to Chuker
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people who shoot does are cowards. They most likely harbor repressed sexual physcological deviance.
I'm guessing you're trying to be funny??
Posted on 10/21/19 at 1:38 pm to FournetteForEver7
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Now i've heard before that if a doe has a yearling with it in the fall to take it because she wont get bred during rut
See.. even deer don’t want to deal with those single parent, bitchy type of women
Posted on 10/21/19 at 1:43 pm to tigertrueAU
I don’t like shooting does with yearlings, but like everyone said, if the dawn/yearling doesn’t have spots, then it should be okay.
I still don’t do it, though. Just me
I still don’t do it, though. Just me
Posted on 10/21/19 at 1:54 pm to tigertrueAU
I usually shoot one or two with my bow early to get the itch gone.
Then it's big bucks or nothing
Then it's big bucks or nothing
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