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re: Palmetto State Armory "Sabre" Series AR-15s Are Out!!!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:56 am to lsufan1971
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:56 am to lsufan1971
Are there any benefits to a JMAC muzzle device and adjustable gas block?
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 3:52 am to finchmeister08
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Are there any benefits to a JMAC muzzle device and adjustable gas block?
I have adj gas blocks on all of my AR’s but one because I run a can on all of them. If you’re going run suppressed I suggest the adj gas block.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:11 am to lsufan1971
that would make sense with the JMAC muzzle device as well since it can receive a silencer as well. the Sabre flash hider on the $799 model doesn't have that ability.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:34 am to finchmeister08
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For those of you that know, what situations would you prefer .223 Wilde over 5.56?
I don't think there's any benefit to a Wilde chamber over 5.56 to anyone not shooting competitive long range accuracy matches. You, your ammo, the weather on the day you are shooting, and a dozen other things in your rifle build matter more.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 11:46 am to Flats
Yep, nitride is fine. I only went with chrome lined because I'm a clone dork. 
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:06 pm to finchmeister08
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it's got that nitride barrel on it.
Chrome is the better option. HC chrome is a dimensional finish, nitriding is a surface treatment. Barrels and BCG's machined to mil-spec accounts for the dimensional changes from HC chrome, if nitrided those dimensions are looser than they should be which means BCG's that leak more gas than they should and barrels with chambers and bores that are more open.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:50 pm to Clames
i missed out on the 13.7 options. the only one that's left is a quad rail.
and they didn't even offer the FDE versions.
and they didn't even offer the FDE versions.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:29 pm to Clames
Isn't .223 wilde basically just a poor man's 5.56 noveske chamber?
If I remember correctly, 1/8" twist and the tolerances are designed for incredibly niche instances
If I remember correctly, 1/8" twist and the tolerances are designed for incredibly niche instances
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:35 pm to DixonCider
from my youtube research, .223 wydle provides the tighter tolerances of the .223 remington round for the 5.56 nato round while also being able to handle the pressure of the 5.56 nato round.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 4:41 pm to DixonCider
I've got two chambered .223 wylde. Supposedly its the best choice if you want to fire 223 and 556
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:23 pm to DixonCider
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223 wilde
I see no reason not to go wilde. They are almost always the same price.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:03 pm to DixonCider
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Isn't .223 wilde basically just a poor man's 5.56 noveske chamber?
Noveske is a poor man's Wylde chamber. Pretty sure the Wylde predates Noveske by a decade or more.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:12 pm to Clames
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if nitrided those dimensions are looser than they should be which means BCG's that leak more gas than they should and barrels with chambers and bores that are more open.
This is bad information. They don’t machine to pre-chrome dimensions if they’re going to use a nitride finish.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:25 pm to Flats
Sometimes cheap (probably Chinese made that there saying are USA made) nitrided BCGs can have bad tolerances, but if you by a nitride barrel from a reputable company like BA or Rosco or PSA, etc, you're probably not going to have that happen.
After all, Nitride is a chemical process, not a traditional over-coating like Chrome.
After all, Nitride is a chemical process, not a traditional over-coating like Chrome.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:47 pm to Jack Ruby
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Sometimes cheap (probably Chinese made that there saying are USA made) nitrided BCGs can have bad tolerances,
Any machined part can have bad tolerances regardless of the finish, though. That's not unique to nitride, chrome, parkerized or raw stainless.
Barrel makers aren't out there machining barrels to the same dimensions, then putting one in the chrome pile which will turn out correct and one in the nitride pile so it can be undersized. That's absurd. I'm not trying to be a dick but there's enough misinformation in the gun world without adding to it.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:50 pm to Flats
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They don’t machine to pre-chrome dimensions if they’re going to use a nitride finish.
It's very common, especially among companies that offer a variety of finishes/coatings. Talking small thousandths of an inch and the volume manufactures aren't changing tooling just for that. Nitriding is a cheaper finish, that's the main reason it's offered so much, not that it's better. Most AR's are over gassed anyway, so a BCG that leaks more gas isn't going to run poorly but if anything becomes marginal after a few thousand rounds it can become a problem.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:33 pm to TaderSalad
The JAKL comes in 300 BO. The long stroke AK piston design is very interesting in an AR package.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:03 pm to sigsauer
can anyone educate me on the muzzle devices PSA is using on these rifles? if i'm gonna buy one, i'm thinking i might want to get one that is "future proof" just in case i want to geta suppressor one day.
JMAC GFHC-E Pin and Weld (i think this one is extended longer for the PSA rifles to get the 16" barrel length on the 13.7" barrels)
- "Suppressor Mount will not work with Dead Air Nomad and some SilencerCo Suppressors"
AAC 51T Flash Hider Pin and Weld (used on 14.5" barrels)
- there is no suppressor information
SilencerCo ASR Flash Hider (used on 14.5" barrels)
- there is no suppressor information
JMAC GFHC-E Pin and Weld (i think this one is extended longer for the PSA rifles to get the 16" barrel length on the 13.7" barrels)
- "Suppressor Mount will not work with Dead Air Nomad and some SilencerCo Suppressors"
AAC 51T Flash Hider Pin and Weld (used on 14.5" barrels)
- there is no suppressor information
SilencerCo ASR Flash Hider (used on 14.5" barrels)
- there is no suppressor information
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:52 pm to finchmeister08
Those are some nice parts for a grand, damn!
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