re: Palmetto State Armory "Sabre" Series AR-15s Are Out!!!

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The other 5% that shoot 10’s of thousands of rounds out of their guns the top tier stuff matters.

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Maybe, maybe not. 2 identical bolts come off an assembly line, one is MPI, one isn't. MPI costs money and it gives you more of a guarantee, but they'll probably shoot the same number of rounds before failure.

And for private ownership I doubt it's anywhere close to 5% that put tens of thousands of rounds downrange.

how many of you plan on being on stand by waiting for these to drop tomorrow?


they dropped some more pics on their facebook:

frick it, i'mma buy one tomorrow if i can.


all i have is a hand assemble anderson in 5.56

and a hand assembled anderson lower with stern defense upper in 9mm.

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True, probably some geardo that has no idea how many companies make parts for these companies. They all source parts amongst themselves and some small machine companies that they have never heard of. Military contracts are one of the biggest hodge podges of part suppliers known. FN gets an order for 25,000 M4A1's and they'll have bolt carriers from Stag, firing pins from LMT, bolt pins from Mennie, bolts from a PSA supplier, etc. As long as it all follows the TDP and the QC is established and traceable then the name slapped on the receiver means very little.

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About 10 or so years ago there was a chart of manufacturers who followed the TDP and those who did not.

The issues with PSA has never been the quality of the parts (it's a not so big secret they are right down the road from FN and get contract overrun parts all the time), the issue with PSA is their assembly.

I have had several "problem" PSA rifles come across my bench that had simple assembly issues. Including one that "wouldn't group". I checked the standard issues like torquing the optics mount and rings, checked headspace and examined the bolt, etc. I had the rifle in my vise and removed the handguard. While doing so, I grabbed the end of the barrel and noticed it moved. I pulled the gas tube and found out the barrel nut was hand tight. Whoever put the rifle together at the factory never torqued it down. How does that happen?

They drop at 4pm eastern

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Including one that "wouldn't group".

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Sometimes you get barrels that just aren't precise. I've found with AR's its a hit and miss unless you're willing to spend money.

The barrel is one of those uncompromisable issues to me. I don't expect 1" groups, and can live with 2" groups from an AR, but scattered shooting is a sign of shitty ammo or a poor barrel.

Up early

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-sabre-forged-13-7-mid-length-5-56-with-13-qd-rail-and-jmac-gfhc-e-pin-weld-b5-bravo-rifle.html

Lots of choices coming

https://palmettostatearmory.com/catalogsearch/result/index/q/sabre/?cat=244&q=sabre

really don't feel like getting a stamp for those 13.7 options.


none of the FN barrel options are in stock, yet.

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No stamp needed they are P&W to be over 16"

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eta: i'm curious if the FN options were ever in stock.