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re: Offshore lightning advice
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:29 pm to CarRamrod
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:29 pm to CarRamrod
One of those guys that wants to go snapper fish in a bay boat without the proper instruments and knowing what to look for. That’s how people get caught in nasty shite. Where you have to pray.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:38 pm to JAB528
it is crazy how they think these things just pop up.... you can see them from far away.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:43 pm to CarRamrod
I’ve been offshore my whole life and never once has a storm just come out of no where. Instantly.
Radar dings at you if you have it.
Even if you don’t have it, when the wind picks up, or there’s a noticeable change in the air temperature, or ya know the dark arse clouds...that’s a good sign you probably need to start looking around and keeping an eye out for storms.
Radar dings at you if you have it.
Even if you don’t have it, when the wind picks up, or there’s a noticeable change in the air temperature, or ya know the dark arse clouds...that’s a good sign you probably need to start looking around and keeping an eye out for storms.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 2:48 pm to JAB528
quote:dont forget to pray and kiss your butt good bye.
Even if you don’t have it, when the wind picks up, or there’s a noticeable change in the air temperature, or ya know the dark arse clouds...that’s a good sign you probably need to start looking around and keeping an eye out for storms.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 3:27 pm to WHATDOINO
quote:This. You don't even have to be in the "ocean." Barataria Bay comes to mind as the site of a really intense 30 minutes.
The way everything instantly goes to shite is amazing and you cant really even prepare it happens so quick.
It will definitely make you realize how small you are in the ocean
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:23 pm to JAB528
I've been out once where it did kick up worse than expected. We didn't have radar, but it was for GITR and were with other boats that did. We headed in, but it was too late. We were with a well known captain and 2 others on the boat had spent summers as experienced deck hands. Only time I can say I saw legit 8s with an occasional 10. Water completely breaking over from port to starboard on a 31' boat. We put on life jackets, but honestly felt okay due to calmness of a very experienced captain.
But even he got caught out there in it. Even the other experienced guys confessed they were worried after we got in. shite can definitely get real very quickly. And it only takes one bad trip.
But even he got caught out there in it. Even the other experienced guys confessed they were worried after we got in. shite can definitely get real very quickly. And it only takes one bad trip.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:42 pm to JAB528
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I’ve probably been caught in more storms offshore than most people have ever been offshore.
As most people have never been there every person on this board could likely make that claim
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no need to get overly dramatic.
correct, a pop up GOM thunderstorm will not sink a craft designed to be offshore barring some sort of hull failure, it can handle much more than you can.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:16 pm to cave canem
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correct, a pop up GOM thunderstorm will not sink a craft designed to be offshore barring some sort of hull failure, it can handle much more than you can.
Having a healthy respect for the ocean/weather and it’s power is a good thing....but those baws in West Africa will strike out 50 miles in a pirogue with a tiller handle 40 horse on the back and hand line tuna. They don’t even know what radar is. It’s out of the comfort zone for most of us though, so panic sets in.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:46 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Having a healthy respect for the ocean/weather and it’s power is a good thing....but those baws in West Africa will strike out 50 miles in a pirogue with a tiller handle 40 horse on the back and hand line tuna. They don’t even know what radar is. It’s out of the comfort zone for most of us though, so panic sets in.
Hell, the one with the 40HP will tow out 5 more that are paddle powered and they will stay out for days in the dugouts, same deal in the far east.
I have spent nearly 25 years at sea in everything from skiffs to tankers to drillships and can remember very few true weather sinkings, they are nearly always related to non seaworthy craft, this includes daily reports from SecureWest.
Any modern craft designed for the offshore enviroment can survive way more than most people think, will it be uncomfortable? yes, but you will survive unless you do something incredibly stupid or your vessel is not seaworthy.
To the OP, get away from the platform 500 meters to avoid a collision, those steel legs are far more dangerous to you than any wave action and point your bow into the wind/waves while maintaining forward momentum until it passes and you will be fine.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:39 am to cave canem
And remember to put your power poles down, thats a lighten rod!
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:40 am to KG6
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Water completely breaking over from port to starboard on a 31' boat. We put on life jackets, but honestly felt okay due to calmness of a very experienced captain.
You had a shite captain if he’s sitting broadside in 10 foot seas
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:06 am to Bucktown Tiger
I’ve only witnessed 1 squall in my life, the power is unreal. We were doing mothership trip in Chandeleurs. All small boats made in safely before the squall hit - 40+mph winds out of nowhere. Thought the 16’ skiffs begins the boat would be flipped. Couldn’t imagine riding that out in a smaller boat.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:28 am to Larry Gooseman
I’ve only been caught out in a really bad squall once. We were were out just past Marsh Island. One would think you can see it coming and just adjust or run away from it but the sky got real confusing real fast. It looked like the dark clouds swirled ae us. Fortunately I was in an elderly gentleman’s boat and that dude knew exactly where a small piece of relatively protected water was along the island. We hunkered down and watched bigger boats in open water get hammered while we radioed the big vessel guys for radar updates. You can bet that spot is on my plotter.
Lesson learned is that experience is more important than a tie rope.
Lesson learned is that experience is more important than a tie rope.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:13 am to TBoy
I've been caught in 4 really bad ones now, and tons of not that bad ones. 3 times the nearest anemometer read gusts over 100. Once we were sleeping in a chandeleur mother ship at anchor no squalls in forecast everyone asleep. We had our boat in full fwd to keep the anchor from pulling. couldn't get up there fast enough to get it up. 3 shrimpers aboard a 40' next to us went down and died. Once on the way in from the hub we hit a bad line and there is simply no where to go out there. Once drifting the bank near tarantula for swords at midnight. That was probably the quickest one. it literally went slick not even drifting to 10" in probably 10 minutes. I'm super glad to have satellite weather now.
back to original subject, I've ridden out plenty of lightning, at cognac/lena/medusa/mars/ihub. get in close on the leeward side. if you have ear plugs I'd put them in. The thunder will rattle your eye balls its so loud when it pops the rigs
back to original subject, I've ridden out plenty of lightning, at cognac/lena/medusa/mars/ihub. get in close on the leeward side. if you have ear plugs I'd put them in. The thunder will rattle your eye balls its so loud when it pops the rigs
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:24 am to BigHoss
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You had a shite captain if he’s sitting broadside in 10 foot seas
I've never been on a trip with someone who can hit every wave perfectly without getting a spray here and there. Now think of that on steroids when you can barely have the engines in gear in order to keep speed down. But somehow swing a 31' boat around with a quickness to hit every wave perfectly in the GoM's short wave interval in 40' of water.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:54 am to KG6
Can barely keep the engines in gear, facing waves broadside. Jesus some people don’t need to be running a boat.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 10:56 am to JAB528
problem is people go snapper fishing one time a year on their cousins 1997 fountain with twin mercury 175 engines and think they are offshore experts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:36 pm to redneck
We’ve always untied from the rig, moved to the leeward side, faced into the wind, and used the throttle to stay in place. If the wind changes we keep moving to the leeward side. That is only if we can’t run to a protected spot, outrun the weather back or go around it and wait it out. We’ve always had some warning and time to make a decision. If it sneaks up on you I think the worst thing you can do is to get to far from the rig. At least at a safe close distance, they can help you if the shi! hits the fan. They have also always been very nice and helpful in giving reports on the size, movement, and severity of the weather. Most of the time the radio traffic in the area starts lighting up before it even gets to us and we have always had plenty of time to make a decision. Biggest thing is to make a smart decision and stay calm. We have seen several freak out and run, only to be seen shortly after coming back fighting the seas to get back behind the rig.
As for lightning, stay away from metal, lower anything conductive, and I have also heard other good stories about the lightning plates too.
As for lightning, stay away from metal, lower anything conductive, and I have also heard other good stories about the lightning plates too.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:28 pm to JAB528
quote:Damn Baw! #SaltLife!
I’ve probably been caught in more storms offshore than most people have ever been offshore.
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