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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:57 am
Posted by WPsportsman
In a van down by the river
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:57 am
How much is 40 of pines worth. Land is all planted 10 year old pine plantation..
Posted by Amite tiger
Member since Sep 2016
111 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:02 pm to
Couple of questions. Are you interested in the value of the timber? Or land and timber?Where are you located? Can you estimate the diameter and height of the trees? 10 years old is borderline merchantable.
Posted by bpinson
Ms
Member since May 2010
2668 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 1:28 pm to
Is probably pine pulp at that age. Too young for chipping saw. Timber prices are down right now. I'd say you really lucky to get 15-20k. It depends on where it is too.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 2:24 pm to
Nothing until about 13 to 15 year time frame. Then a first thining can remove about 20 percent of growth and allow the remainder to really flourish. After the first thinning you will need to control burn under growth in late Dec. Jan. time frame to maximize growth potential.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 2:41 pm to
Depends what size they are honestly. Sounds like they weren't managed, so I'm gonna say not too much. If they are good form, sit on them for another 5 years, thin, sit another 5-7, and cut (if you have good soil and manage them)
Posted by WPsportsman
In a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2015
2408 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 8:52 pm to
Looking at buying 40 acers all has been planted in pines 10 years ago will need thinking in the next few years.. Basically asking how much should I be paying for this type of land and how much should I expect to get after thinning and then later down the road when I clear cut the rest?
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5602 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:00 pm to
Only way to know for sure is to have a forester cruise the timber. The land will have one value, and the timber another. There really is no other way to put a value on it.
Posted by Team Alpha Beast
Member since Mar 2016
743 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:12 pm to
Definitely want to talk to a forester.

Depending on where the land is you might have a hard time finding someone who will do a thinning cut or even a clear cut.

My buddy has 30 acres he wants cleared and can't find anyone who will cut it.
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 9:14 pm
Posted by UnderhandRabbit
Camp Arifjan, Kuwait
Member since May 2011
537 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:12 pm to
Hope it isn't Weyerhaeuser land off LA 10
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:13 pm to
Offer land value only. Timber isn't worth anything right now, and are you gonna hedge it on everything going well for another 10-15 years?

Ever heard of pine beetles?
Posted by WPsportsman
In a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2015
2408 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:14 pm to
Nah it's family land.. I've seen that land advertised before on land watch,, something has to be wrong with it
Posted by UnderhandRabbit
Camp Arifjan, Kuwait
Member since May 2011
537 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:17 pm to
Or it's land locked
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
795 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:19 pm to
Lots of variables.

1st establish the value of the land. What is the 40 worth? Where is it located, road frontage or deeded access, is it developable, utilities available, high ground vs low ground, any environmental concerns, quality neighbors.

10 year old pine is not merchantable so it has no immediate value. 1st thinning will be 13-17 years depending on management styles and quality of stand. Pine pulpwood is down, you will make almost nothing in first thinning. 4.50-6.00/ton maybe a little more. Next thinning at 20-24 years can be marketed as chip and saw if you have a mill taking it nearby. That can be a little more profitable but your still not making much. The money is at the end 28-35 years.

Buying timberland is a LONG term investment. Ties up a lot of money for a longtime. But I enjoy the process of owning and improving my own property.
Posted by WPsportsman
In a van down by the river
Member since Jun 2015
2408 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:26 pm to
thanks fellas got a better idea anyway
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34928 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

Nothing until about 13 to 15 year time frame. Then a first thining can remove about 20 percent of growth and allow the remainder to really flourish


They just did this to ours this past year. I have no clue what it means but I hope it means they're gonna harvest soon... I'm ready to have actual fields to go tear up.

All our fields got converted to timber right as I came to the age where I could drive up to our land with a chick or friends to go frick off n go do dumb kid shite so now that I'm out of college and have a jeep, I can't WAIT to be able to go tear shite up once these damn trees get cut
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:38 pm to
quote:


Hope it isn't Weyerhaeuser land off LA 10



I remember when a lot of that was Crown Zellerbach land. We used to ride dirt bikes all over that area and they actually allowed it.

What is wrong with the Weyerhaeuser land?
Posted by Winnpt
LA
Member since Sep 2015
37 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:50 pm to
Where is your buddy with the 30 acres located? We are looking for something to move onto
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5132 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 5:37 am to
quote:

Chipping saw


Chip and saw
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 5:38 am
Posted by bpinson
Ms
Member since May 2010
2668 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 12:46 pm to
Where is said land? Are there mineral rights? What type soil? Any gravel? There are many variables.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24947 posts
Posted on 2/2/17 at 12:59 pm to
Figured i would throw this into this thread. Sorry to hijack. How much does it cost to get pasture land planted? Potentially buying a place that has around 20-30 acres that i would like to plant as i don't want that much grass to cut. Thinking about doing hard woods vs pine to hold more deer.
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