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re: New article from American Rifleman concerning stopping power
Posted on 9/5/12 at 2:22 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Posted on 9/5/12 at 2:22 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
All he does is show penetration data. There is nothing new here on "stopping power."
Not an expert but that thing called "Expansion Factor" to the far right might be a good a indicator.
Posted on 9/5/12 at 2:23 pm to bapple
quote:
bapple
thats a gnarly arse video man
Posted on 9/5/12 at 2:35 pm to brass2mouth
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daylower
What round are they issuing yall for carry?
Posted on 9/5/12 at 3:07 pm to Who Me
Helo,
Btw, my Kahr p9 should be here today or tomorrow.
Be sure and give us a quick review on the gun!
Btw, my Kahr p9 should be here today or tomorrow.
Be sure and give us a quick review on the gun!
Posted on 9/5/12 at 4:12 pm to Helo
quote:
The article only looks at penetration and expansion and doesn't measure energy
1/2*mass*velocity*velocity
9mm:
0.5*115*1150*1150=
76,043,750 grains*(ft/s)^2
0.40:
0.5*155*1144*1144=
101,427,040 grains*(ft/s)^2
The 0.40 has about 33% more kinetic energy, but that doesn't necessarily mean more power. That just means more energy. The power will be derived by the bullets interaction with its target.
Posted on 9/5/12 at 5:19 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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Btw, my Kahr p9 should be here today or tomorrow.
Well I just picked it up and she is a beauty.
I hope to make it to the range Friday with it.
This is a really nice firearm but you better have some man hands to rack it new out of the box.
Posted on 9/5/12 at 6:13 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
All he does is show penetration data. There is nothing new here on "stopping power."
Lotta folks (not saying Tigah is one of them) want to define a handgun's ability to stop an attacker as "knockdown power."
Handguns have no real "knockdown power" (nor do some centerfire rifles). Handguns punch//drill holes in people, causing tissue damage. But they don't knock people down.
See this video. Pay particular attention from the 3:30 mark to the end - dudes getting shot with .44 Magnum and .308 rifle.
Video
Posted on 9/5/12 at 7:12 pm to dawg23
1)Shot Placement
2)Adequate Penetration
3)Expansion
so long as these are in check you have a dead animal/zombie/attacker
You influence #1
The speed, weight, and caliber of a bullet is the biggest factor in #2
Bullet design influences #3
2)Adequate Penetration
3)Expansion
so long as these are in check you have a dead animal/zombie/attacker
You influence #1
The speed, weight, and caliber of a bullet is the biggest factor in #2
Bullet design influences #3
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