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re: Native Habitat Restoration for Wildlife
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:31 pm to Outdoorreb
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:31 pm to Outdoorreb
Supposedly peak rut is Jan 4-9. First doe was probably bred around Christmas, if not a little before. I had heavy chasing December 16th on a camera with 3 different bucks running a doe.
A fawn on the ground now would put breeding between the 20th and 25th roughly.
Last year, my first one on camera was July 21st, which would put breeding date around January 1st.
A fawn on the ground now would put breeding between the 20th and 25th roughly.
Last year, my first one on camera was July 21st, which would put breeding date around January 1st.
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:59 pm to Restoringtheground
You could walk the areas that you are wanting to reset/underbrush to make sure that a fawn isn’t in there.
If you are confident then I wouldn’t worry about it, if you did happen to kill one it wouldn’t change much.
If you are confident then I wouldn’t worry about it, if you did happen to kill one it wouldn’t change much.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:19 pm to Outdoorreb
The areas I’m burning tomorrow totals 3-4 acres and grasses are only 12-18 inches tall because I cut it 7-8 weeks ago. I cut it today so no fawns to worry about in it.
I did not cut anything else because of concern of fawns being on the ground. It isn’t about losing a fawn, but me killing a helpless fawn.
I did not cut anything else because of concern of fawns being on the ground. It isn’t about losing a fawn, but me killing a helpless fawn.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:37 pm to Restoringtheground
I’ve got to carefully expand some food plots next week. Most of mine are half an acre. Need to triple their size ideally.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:59 pm to Restoringtheground
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It isn’t about losing a fawn, but me killing a helpless fawn
I know. Luckily, I have never found one that I had killed. I would almost tend to believe I have and I just didn’t realize it. I have found them dead, but it wasn’t from anything that I did. Well, I did hit one in a truck once that ran up and across a Hwy. I don’t count that.
Meant to say that the odds of a fawn being a buck is 50/50, then the stats that say you lose 20% (or is it 30%?) of your bucks in each age class makes the odds of a buck living until 5.5 pretty slim. A buck fawn has what, like a 15% chance of making it to 5.5? Losing 1 or 2 isn’t the end of the world. You just have to make sure the fawn wasn’t lost over aesthetics. Making habitat improvements that will benefit the next 5 years of fawn survivability (recruitment) are more important.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:09 pm to Restoringtheground
Typically we don’t see fawns before July 4 and typically the rut is at earliest a few days before Christmas. However we had that severe cold right before Christmas which forced the deer to move more. If any were very slightly in rut they may have been bred early?
Reason I say that is I have pictures and video of a fawn being born on my place 9 days ago the 5th of July so a little earlier than we have recorded. Makes me think they started a little earlier and lines up with the cold snap.
Currently I have photo documentation of 6 different dawns and does. So I think caution when cutting/working is well warranted right now.
Reason I say that is I have pictures and video of a fawn being born on my place 9 days ago the 5th of July so a little earlier than we have recorded. Makes me think they started a little earlier and lines up with the cold snap.
Currently I have photo documentation of 6 different dawns and does. So I think caution when cutting/working is well warranted right now.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:27 pm to The Levee
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Need to triple their size ideally.
Why do you need to make every food plot 1.5 acres? What is your plan in doing this?
I’m curious because I am basically doing the same thing right now on about 8 plots. I’m not making the plots bigger, but I’m removing trees that are blocking the sun. Mainly removing undesirable species/ages. I’m not making the plot bigger, but we know what is going to happen when the sun hits the ground.
A friend and consultant once told me one of the truest/most simple concepts to managing wildlife habitat. It makes perfect sense once you realize it. “We are managers of light.” Everything revolves around the sun. If the sun’s rays can’t reach the ground, nothing will grow that is worth a crap.
Water and the sun. Figure out how to improve the hydrology and figure out how to get light to the soil.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:35 pm to Outdoorreb
The biologist Jimmy Stafford said to try our best to get to 2 acres
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:38 pm to Outdoorreb
quote:
We are managers of light.
Actually had this discussion with Scott today. Focus more on sunlight hitting the ground than bedding. Sure you need to have bedding…but light hitting the ground around your plots eventually gives you that. And it’s not woody. It’s full for lush food
Scott has some unique areas though. His land was truly cleared
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:57 pm to The Levee
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The biologist Jimmy Stafford said to try our best to get to 2 acres
Did he happen to give you any designs or tell you to up the South ends more?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:07 am to Outdoorreb
He said typically a south wind means go to Waffle House or sleep in! Lol. You want most of your stands in food plots facing north.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:46 am to The Levee
quote:
He said typically a south wind means go to Waffle House or sleep in! Lol. You want most of your stands in food plots facing north.
I was talking about sunlight not about hunting.
How are those summoner plots looking by the way?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:12 am to Restoringtheground
Wow. Great audio (I only watched the 1st so far), and it hits home.
In 2021, a month before Ida, I bought 200 acres of 6 yr cutover between Wiggins and Beaumont, MS. I left it alone that 1st fall except for cutting a few trails through the thick growth. Last year we put in a foodplot, mowed the trails and hunted a little (shot a little one, saw a huge one and took trail pics of plenty).
This year I have built a pond in a valley just below a loblolly swamp, started a building pad where a pole barn will go, fixed the main logging road, and put fire lanes around most of the perimeter.
It is mixed hardwood pine natural regeneration in the untouched parts. 5% is old growth along a creek.
I'm late 50s now, and hope my kids and grandchildren get joy from this land. I hope to enjoy it with them for a couple decades. It is great respite from the city.
Planning to listen to the rest of your videos for habitat ideas. I will gravitate between letting the forest grow and low impact measures to improve habitat.
In 2021, a month before Ida, I bought 200 acres of 6 yr cutover between Wiggins and Beaumont, MS. I left it alone that 1st fall except for cutting a few trails through the thick growth. Last year we put in a foodplot, mowed the trails and hunted a little (shot a little one, saw a huge one and took trail pics of plenty).
This year I have built a pond in a valley just below a loblolly swamp, started a building pad where a pole barn will go, fixed the main logging road, and put fire lanes around most of the perimeter.
It is mixed hardwood pine natural regeneration in the untouched parts. 5% is old growth along a creek.
I'm late 50s now, and hope my kids and grandchildren get joy from this land. I hope to enjoy it with them for a couple decades. It is great respite from the city.
Planning to listen to the rest of your videos for habitat ideas. I will gravitate between letting the forest grow and low impact measures to improve habitat.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 1:14 am to Outdoorreb
He didn’t mention the sunlight. Summer plots are killing it now. Millet really helped the peas. Dude is smart
Posted on 7/15/23 at 7:03 am to dat yat
DatYat,
It sounds like we are dealing with an almost identical situation. Check out the Facebook page because I am going to do my best to post pictures of my progress on there.
I'm going to try to do a Facebook live video today if I can get enough signal on my phone to do it.
Fire, Fire, Fire! My next podcast will be about how to get the Mississippi burn certification and its advantages.
Scott
It sounds like we are dealing with an almost identical situation. Check out the Facebook page because I am going to do my best to post pictures of my progress on there.
I'm going to try to do a Facebook live video today if I can get enough signal on my phone to do it.
Fire, Fire, Fire! My next podcast will be about how to get the Mississippi burn certification and its advantages.
Scott
Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:00 am to Restoringtheground
Does anyone know if there are any agencies that rent a no-till drill in Claiborne co or surrounding counties? I checked with Wesley at Farmer’s Coop and struck out. I’m looking to go the no-till rout and wanted to rent and check out the results before purchasing one. I’m on HWY 547 a couple of miles from Copiah Co WMA.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:45 am to Bayou Ken
Check your NRCS, check your dealers also. I know some rent 1 or 2 out
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:07 am to Bayou Ken
Check with your county NRCS or Soil Conservation Erosion office.
Maybe even try the next county over if yours doesn’t have one.
Maybe even try the next county over if yours doesn’t have one.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:28 pm to Restoringtheground
Thanks. I’ll give them a call.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 4:44 pm to dat yat
For my upcoming podcast, I'm going to talk start talking about the winter and spring work I have on my property this year, and the results that I am seeing.
My daylight activity right now is 100 times better than last year at this time. I'm going to try to break down the work that I have done each month this year, and make each one a separate podcast. I will also share with you the results that I am seeing from the work completed.
Please fire away with any ideas, questions, concerns, criticisms, etc.
Scott
My daylight activity right now is 100 times better than last year at this time. I'm going to try to break down the work that I have done each month this year, and make each one a separate podcast. I will also share with you the results that I am seeing from the work completed.
Please fire away with any ideas, questions, concerns, criticisms, etc.
Scott
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