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re: Native Habitat Restoration for Wildlife
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:22 pm to Restoringtheground
Posted on 7/9/23 at 7:22 pm to Restoringtheground
I couldn’t find a drill to rent from Co-Op or NRCS ext in Wilkinson County
Tractormaxx had the Saya 507 drill coming in for July and I put the deposit down. Was on a list of folks waiting to buy their stock.
It was $7,500
Tractormaxx had the Saya 507 drill coming in for July and I put the deposit down. Was on a list of folks waiting to buy their stock.
It was $7,500
Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:55 am to Cowboyfan89
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But he didn't say he knows it's "nuttalli" because it has thorns. He said he knows because the leaves close up
I know I replied to you with that message, but I meant it for Restoringtheground.
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It does have thorns. It’s a small briar. Reb sent me something that shows that it is native to Louisiana at least, so it’s very possible that it’s native to Mississippi also.
What I sent in email and the one for strigillosa
I guess it is nuttalli. I have never seen it here, and I just assumed people were calling strigillosa nuttalli by mistake.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:36 am to Outdoorreb
I’m going back up to the camp this weekend and I’ll try to get an update and better pictures of it if possible.
It was my first time to see it and I only know of one location on my property.
It was my first time to see it and I only know of one location on my property.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 12:15 pm to Restoringtheground
Cool thread. We don't have much land, but I've been pondering ways to return a lot of our 2.5 acre yard into something more natural and good for the wildlife.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:16 pm to Teague
The neatest thing my wife and I experienced last year were the butterflies that were everywhere in late summer/early fall. There was goldenrod blooming everywhere and butterflies all over the place. It’s really cool.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:13 pm to Restoringtheground
Get you some bees. Call a local beekeeper and they will put them on your place for free. Might even pay you.
Amazing to see the results. Natural forage around the hives was way more biomass than other areas.
Amazing to see the results. Natural forage around the hives was way more biomass than other areas.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:56 pm to Teague
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2.5 acre yard into something more natural and good for the wildlife
I’m in the same position. I’d love to hear a future episode on this. Things to do on a sub-5 acre home site to promote wildlife habitat while still operating a functional home at the site.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 7:31 pm to AyyyBaw
I'm on about 10 acres total. Most of it is pasture that I'm restoring to native grassland, and about 2 acres of forestland. About an acre and a half I'd the homesite, and about half of that is going into gardens, orchards, and native plantings. I hate mowing grass, so there won't be much of a yard left when I'm done...
The important thing is not planting like you're planting a garden or a flower bed. That's not how native plants grow naturally. They grow in clusters or bunches. Plant close together.
Check your state's native plant society for information on "gardening" with natives.
The important thing is not planting like you're planting a garden or a flower bed. That's not how native plants grow naturally. They grow in clusters or bunches. Plant close together.
Check your state's native plant society for information on "gardening" with natives.
Posted on 7/10/23 at 8:04 pm to The Levee
Levee,
My wife would absolutely kill me if I put bees on the property. A bee/wasp flys by and she runs screaming. Lol
My wife would absolutely kill me if I put bees on the property. A bee/wasp flys by and she runs screaming. Lol
Posted on 7/10/23 at 9:08 pm to Restoringtheground
They are Italian bees! They supposedly don’t sting lol
Posted on 7/10/23 at 10:18 pm to Outdoorreb
We got a case (24) bottles last year. They didn’t even call us this time around. I think they alternate between here and ND
Honey is really good, problem is that it crystallizes fast
Honey is really good, problem is that it crystallizes fast
Posted on 7/10/23 at 11:28 pm to The Levee
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Honey is really good, problem is that it crystallizes fast
Just put the bottle in a pot of boiling water and you are good to go.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 5:57 am to The Levee
Oh, we love honey. The problem is the honey maker. Lol. I will definitely run it by her. She loves being at the camp as much as I do and I am thankful for that.
I am in rural Mississippi. How would I even go about finding bee keepers?
Like Reb said, put it in really hot water and you can get it back to use. We buy local honey and that is what I do when ours crystalizes.
I am in rural Mississippi. How would I even go about finding bee keepers?
Like Reb said, put it in really hot water and you can get it back to use. We buy local honey and that is what I do when ours crystalizes.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:06 am to Restoringtheground
Check out Native Habitat Project on IG. He's here in North AL working to restore native grassland and North American Savannahs
Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:35 am to Cowboyfan89
Sounds very much like what I’m trying to do with native plantings, orchard, garden, adjacent to bottomland woods, etc. I’ll checkout the local native planting groups. Appreciate the input.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:40 am to Restoringtheground
contact adee honey
Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:45 pm to The Levee
Thank you for that input. Wife actually approved bee boxes as long as they aren’t close to the camp site.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:29 pm to The Levee
Levee,
I called my local NRCS office in Smith county today and found a drill. The soil conservation office has one that they rent out. It’s $50 per day and $5 per acre. That will cost me less than $100 to plant each fall, plus seeds.
The machine is only in its 3rd year. I’m excited about this. I’m planning for mid/late September to plant. I’m going to spray 2 weeks before, then drill into the dead vegetation. Then roll it after it’s drilled.
I called my local NRCS office in Smith county today and found a drill. The soil conservation office has one that they rent out. It’s $50 per day and $5 per acre. That will cost me less than $100 to plant each fall, plus seeds.
The machine is only in its 3rd year. I’m excited about this. I’m planning for mid/late September to plant. I’m going to spray 2 weeks before, then drill into the dead vegetation. Then roll it after it’s drilled.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:02 pm to Restoringtheground
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That will cost me less than $100 to plant each fall, plus seeds.
I'm Jealous!!! I had to buy the drill...oh well
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I’m planning for mid/late September to plant. I’m going to spray 2 weeks before, then drill into the dead vegetation. Then roll it after it’s drilled.
Take this as you will
1. ask the folks around you when they plant, what they plant, and how they plant (till, no till, drill, broadcast etc.) This is of paramount importance. If you dont find anyone else that drills, assume you can drill at the same time they plant. You'll get better seed to soil contact and have a higher yield of biomass, but you want to make sure the timing is right for certain plants like vetch etc.
2. Take soil samples of every spot you want to plant. Don't skip this step! take to the local MSU extension service and its like $7 a sample...the results will take 4-6 weeks, so do this now if you haven't.
3. use their prescription for lime immediately. We just cut the BS and asked CoOp to bring their lime truck....limed 1 ton of lime on each of ten food plot areas in one day. Cost about $700. Well worth it. If prescribed more than 1 ton per acre, note that they can only do 1 ton per field at a time effectivly...so it make take a few years to get the ammount prescribed. EX: we were prescribed 3 tons on most fields and are doing 1 ton per field for three years.
4. Use your prescription to special order the right amount of fertilizer. They can help you.
5. Figure out what kind of weeds you have in the field and what you are planting, then ask CoOp to suggest a herbicide to spray and for the acreage you're spraying.
6. spray, wait a week or two
7. you can bush hog now if you want, or just drill into your standing dead weeds/grass if its not too high. If you dont bush hog, you can roll at this point.
8. I would ask if you can run fertilizer through their drill first and if not, broadcast fertilizer the same day you plant....and do it on a day where you KNOW its about to rain or actually IS raining lol. Dont make the same mistake we did and plant...then have to wait a month for rain with rain in the forecast every afternoon.
Let me know if you need help scheduling...I have a Google Sheet that has formulas for calculating seed, fert and lime for specific acreages.
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