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My Uncle Has A Full Auto AK-47 From the 80’s, But No Class 3 License
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 6:58 pm
He is in poor health and not expected to live much longer. He wants me (and ultimately my son) to have the gun when he passes. Neither my son nor I have a Class 3, so is there any way we can ever legally own that gun? I honestly have no idea if it was originally full auto, or if it was altered to become full auto.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 6:59 pm
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Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:00 pm to auwaterfowler
Sounds like he just lost it in a boating accident on his last fishing trip so he could get out there just one more time.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:01 pm to auwaterfowler
If it is pre 1986, I believe as long as you can legally posses a firearm you can have it. Pretty sure you have to go through ATF/NFA though (set up trust/file as individual, pay $200 tax stamp)
That’s just what I seem to remember. Would definitely consult someone with more knowledge of the law first though
That’s just what I seem to remember. Would definitely consult someone with more knowledge of the law first though
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:15 pm to auwaterfowler
You might want to figure out what you got.
First step is deleting everything you just wrote.
Second step is find a firearms friendly lawyer.
First step is deleting everything you just wrote.
Second step is find a firearms friendly lawyer.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:16 pm to kengel2
He just forgot to say “hypothetically” before his post that’s all.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:21 pm to auwaterfowler
You aren’t that smart posting that stuff on a public forum.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:25 pm to auwaterfowler
ETA
This is of major concern. I’d figure this out first somehow.
If not modified I’d talk to a class 3 dealer on transfer process. I’d have to guess it’s got to go through a dealer of he doesn’t have any documentation
This is of major concern. I’d figure this out first somehow.
If not modified I’d talk to a class 3 dealer on transfer process. I’d have to guess it’s got to go through a dealer of he doesn’t have any documentation
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:29 pm to auwaterfowler
Delete everything you wrote before people start quoting you
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:42 pm to auwaterfowler
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:48 pm to auwaterfowler
“My uncle was a coke dealer in the 80s and has millions of dollars in a trunk under his bed. After he passes, can I have that trunk full of cash, or should I report it to the IRS so it can be properly taxed”
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:55 pm to auwaterfowler
If it were me in that situation, I wouldn't tell a soul and find a good hiding spot for it.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:06 pm to auwaterfowler
I don’t know the answer, but I know I’d take that gun.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:11 pm to auwaterfowler
If it was never registered with the NFA and there’s no tax stamp paperwork then there is no way for you to legally own it. The best thing you could do in that situation is have it demilled (cut up the full auto receiver) and then have the parts rebuilt on a new semi auto receiver.
If it was registered in the NFA back in the 80s then you can file a form 4 with the ATF, pay a $200 tax stamp and the machinegun will be legally transferred to you.
If it was registered in the NFA back in the 80s then you can file a form 4 with the ATF, pay a $200 tax stamp and the machinegun will be legally transferred to you.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:14 pm to auwaterfowler
Also are you 100% sure that it is actually full auto? I’m not trying to insult your intelligence, I’ve just heard plenty of stories from acquaintances in the past like “yea my buddy has a full auto Ak-47 machinegun!” But in actuality it’s just a regular semi auto AKM that they may have bump fired a few times.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:20 pm to ChatRabbit77
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it were me in that situation, I wouldn't tell a soul and find a good hiding spot for it.
And enjoy shooting the shite out of it from time to time in an isolated area
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:35 pm to auwaterfowler
That would be so awesome. Get it and don’t tell anyone about it.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:04 pm to White Bear
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Get it and don’t tell anyone about it.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:08 pm to auwaterfowler
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is there any way we can ever legally own that gun?
No
Posted on 11/11/20 at 12:18 am to auwaterfowler
IF it is a legal machine gun it is worth a lot of money.
IF it is a legal machine gun you can own it no problem.
IF it is a legal machine gun your uncle went through a lot of trouble in the 80's to make it a legal machine gun and should have some idea of what to do to transfer it.
Believe it or not, a Machine gun in the 80's wasn't much more expensive than a quality semi auto version of a gun, if there was a price difference at all. I could kick my dad and uncles asses for not buying guns in the 70's and 80's.
IF it is a legal machine gun you can own it no problem.
IF it is a legal machine gun your uncle went through a lot of trouble in the 80's to make it a legal machine gun and should have some idea of what to do to transfer it.
Believe it or not, a Machine gun in the 80's wasn't much more expensive than a quality semi auto version of a gun, if there was a price difference at all. I could kick my dad and uncles asses for not buying guns in the 70's and 80's.
Posted on 11/11/20 at 6:52 am to auwaterfowler
It is my understanding that in many cases like this the ATF will allow the gun to be added to the registry, the problem, if you approach them and they say no, then the gun is gone.
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