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re: Michael Jordan’s 82’ Bayliss Catch 23 just weighed in a 71-pound White Marlin
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:35 pm to profdillweed
Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:35 pm to profdillweed
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That capt makes over $1mm a year just for that reason
Mil seems absurdly high, I have no idea though. I thought the rule of thumb was something like $2,000/ ft? So in the $160,000-200,000 range? Cruise ship captains aren’t making $1 mil?
I have also have no clue about performance. But why are something like a Viking ‘outclassed’ by more ‘custom boats’? I mean very little on a 60+ Viking is not custom except for maybe the hull.
ETA: I’ve read that usually they do a 50/50 split between the boat (owner) and the crew? $400k win here for Catch 23, so do they pay for the entrance fee out of that first and then do the 50/50 split?
Can’t be that many crew here is there? Captain and 1-2 mates? Do they bring extra ‘paid’ crew for a big boat on a big tournament like this?
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 8:15 pm
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Posted on 8/10/25 at 7:36 pm to highcotton2
Google says you need 2.4bil if that’s the same boat and same guy. Looks like he had several boats through his lifetime of the same name
Google search
the time of his death in 2007, Jim Moran had a net worth of $2.4 billion.
Additional details about the Gallant Lady yacht
The yacht was designed by De Voogt Naval Architects and built by Feadship.
Moran owned multiple yachts named Gallant Lady, commissioning several from Feadship.
One of these yachts was later sold and renamed Royal Pacific, and then Lady Sandals.
The Gallant Lady yacht delivered in 2007, just before Moran's death, was a 51m (168ft) Feadship.
At the time of its sale in 2022, the 51m Gallant Lady had a last known asking price of $25,000,000.
The latest Gallant Lady yacht is currently owned by the Moran family, according to autoevolution.
Google search
the time of his death in 2007, Jim Moran had a net worth of $2.4 billion.
Additional details about the Gallant Lady yacht
The yacht was designed by De Voogt Naval Architects and built by Feadship.
Moran owned multiple yachts named Gallant Lady, commissioning several from Feadship.
One of these yachts was later sold and renamed Royal Pacific, and then Lady Sandals.
The Gallant Lady yacht delivered in 2007, just before Moran's death, was a 51m (168ft) Feadship.
At the time of its sale in 2022, the 51m Gallant Lady had a last known asking price of $25,000,000.
The latest Gallant Lady yacht is currently owned by the Moran family, according to autoevolution.
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:22 pm to Ol boy
Yea Shane isn’t saying the whole truth he didn’t want to wait on a custom boat……
Custom boats are far superior than a production. Now based upon who u buy from there are a lot of things you can choose from so u kind of get a custom feel with some production boats.
Custom boats tend to be faster, have nicer lines and will build it to what you want. A lot of people do not go custom route because of cost and the wait. Most custom boats take 2-3years to complete. Most of the time longer pending where ur at on the list. Buying a custom boat is like building a house. You pick everything!
East coast flair on the hull is where it’s at. They cut through waves like a hot butter knife going through butter.
I have fished on both and it really is the same fishing experience. What stands out is interior, ride, speed and what mfg name is on the side.
Custom boats are far superior than a production. Now based upon who u buy from there are a lot of things you can choose from so u kind of get a custom feel with some production boats.
Custom boats tend to be faster, have nicer lines and will build it to what you want. A lot of people do not go custom route because of cost and the wait. Most custom boats take 2-3years to complete. Most of the time longer pending where ur at on the list. Buying a custom boat is like building a house. You pick everything!
East coast flair on the hull is where it’s at. They cut through waves like a hot butter knife going through butter.
I have fished on both and it really is the same fishing experience. What stands out is interior, ride, speed and what mfg name is on the side.
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 8/10/25 at 9:38 pm to LSUDUCKMAN67
It’s crazy that MJ owns the boat and was at the tournament on his boat, but he brought in a ‘professional angler’ to fight the fish while he had a paid captain driving the boat? lol, I mean wtf is Jordan even doing? I can’t imagine that, personally
This post was edited on 8/10/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/10/25 at 10:17 pm to baldona
A lot of sport fishing boats have paid captains and crew. Some just have paid captains as a boat owner you want to be able to enjoy urself and the boat especially when you have guest on. Can’t fight a fish and drive the boat at the same time. Plus you want someone experienced driving the boat while fighting fish. There a science to it. When to back down, when to go forward how to use the engines to turn the boat.
A lot of big money tournaments some boat owners do bring in ppl like that just bc of the amount of money on the line. Based upon tournament rules u have to list crew, captain, and anglers. Pending rules of the tournament dictate what each is allowed to do. Crew is only ones allowed to touch leader for it to be considered a caught fish.
A lot of big money tournaments some boat owners do bring in ppl like that just bc of the amount of money on the line. Based upon tournament rules u have to list crew, captain, and anglers. Pending rules of the tournament dictate what each is allowed to do. Crew is only ones allowed to touch leader for it to be considered a caught fish.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:27 am to baldona
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I mean wtf is Jordan even doing?
Calcutta Auction and bets. Its a big money game.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:57 am to MarshMan
Yup, the side bets and Calcutta are where the real money is at. Knowing MJ, a degenerate gambler, he has probably got a million or two out on this tournament.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:52 am to highcotton2
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I was just in Maine last week and was walking around the harbor and came across these two boats. Can you imagine the money you would have to have to not only have the big boat but to also bring along the small boat to run around in? Crazy.
The Galati team has almost the same set up and a helicopter. They are usually berthed at the Wharf in OBA during tournament season.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:56 am to baldona
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Do they bring extra ‘paid’ crew for a big boat on a big tournament like this?
Yes, they bring a chef, stewards, capt, mate, angler, deckhands and maybe an engineer.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:05 am to profdillweed
Crazy
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:21 am to profdillweed
Nice bayliss.
did he get passed up by a production boat?
did he get passed up by a production boat?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:29 am to highcotton2
Look up Bad Company Fishing Adventures on youtube. Billionaire out in search of Granders. with 2 motherships a helicopter and a fleet of fishing vessels.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:38 am to profdillweed
is a 70# white marlin "big" for that species or are they so rare that you weigh whatever you can because any white marlin will put you in the money?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:02 am to captdalton
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Hell, if someone gave me one I could only afford to fill it up a couple times a year. It has a 3,100 gallon fuel tank. I sure couldn’t afford the annual upkeep.
Figure ~ 10% of the original price of the boat per year and you'll be close. Some years higher (overhaul years) and some lower (just a haul out and bottom scrub). I don't know if that math holds up on a boat that big and expensive, I haven't spent much time on anything bigger than 65' and for one that big and that new, it's probably cheaper than that barring major mechanical issues. Since it has 20v4000's, he probably has regular major mechanical issues.
MJ's boat was probably ~ $15-18M, so probably averages about $1M a year out of the boat account if I had to guess.
MJ spending $1M a year keeping his boat clean is probably less financially taxing than me needing a new cranking battery for my clapped out bay boat this year.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:07 am to slidingstop
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is a 70# white marlin "big" for that species or are they so rare that you weigh whatever you can because any white marlin will put you in the money?
Yes to both. They are not common and that's a pretty big one. From what I am told a 100 pound white marlin would be a super big deal.
The main story here is MJ's boat is incredible.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 8/11/25 at 11:45 am to captdalton
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Hell, if someone gave me one I could only afford to fill it up a couple times a year. It has a 3,100 gallon fuel tank. I sure couldn’t afford the annual upkeep.
The rule of thumb on boats over a certain size (generally at the 32' line, but it can vary depending on the boat, amenities), but you can reasonably estimate the cost of maintaining a "big" boat at roughly 10% of the MSRP when it was new. At least for the first few years. It will likely go up. The only way to keep it low is to either not use it very much/at all (
) or do cost-sharing/shifting (co-ownership, timeshare, going to a lot of trouble to rent it out, etc.) So, if someone gave you a $20m boat, they're really giving you an almost $200k/month maintenance/upkeep bill.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:14 pm to Ace Midnight
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The rule of thumb on boats over a certain size (generally at the 32' line, but it can vary depending on the boat, amenities)
The rule is generally going to apply to anything that lives in a slip and has to be hauled out by a yard vs a lift / trailer and owner-haulable.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:17 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I defer to you, brother.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:26 pm to Ace Midnight
Like I said, this is a whole different class than I am used to dealing with so I don't know if that rule still applies, or if it's better or worse. I suspect the boat itself probably costs less than 10% a year, probably more like 5-7% for just the hull, accommodations, and machinery. I doubt that 10% number holds up on this thing just because the initial cost is so astronomical.
Start talking fuel, crew, slips, tackle, and EVERYTHING that comes out of the boat account and I bet if flies right past that 10% number and probably into the 20% range. From what I understand from the rumor mill, that boat gets a fair bit of hours on it.
ETA: Now that I think about it, one repower is going to launch those numbers into the stratosphere, so maybe it does hold up.
Hopefully one of the OB ballers shows up and lets us know what his 70+' custom sportfisher with wound up MTU's costs him to keep up so I can get the question out of my head.
Start talking fuel, crew, slips, tackle, and EVERYTHING that comes out of the boat account and I bet if flies right past that 10% number and probably into the 20% range. From what I understand from the rumor mill, that boat gets a fair bit of hours on it.
ETA: Now that I think about it, one repower is going to launch those numbers into the stratosphere, so maybe it does hold up.
Hopefully one of the OB ballers shows up and lets us know what his 70+' custom sportfisher with wound up MTU's costs him to keep up so I can get the question out of my head.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 12:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Start talking fuel, crew, slips, tackle, and EVERYTHING that comes out of the boat account and I bet if flies right past that 10% number and probably into the 20% range. From what I understand from the rumor mill, that boat gets a fair bit of hours on it.
Right, I think that the 10% "rule of thumb" number accounts for everything with reasonably light use. I think, obviously, a boat that runs 70 to 100 days a year is going to be way higher on the boat account than a boat that runs 20 or 30.
If you lived on the boat, you'd save money on a house, but I bet the number got to 30% or more.
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