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re: Mexican squealers in teal season
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:22 am to Bullredbf
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:22 am to Bullredbf
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Just had a buddy insist we could shoot em this year in teal season. I haven't seen this written anywhere. Anybody here hear any different. WLF website still says teal only.
Your buddy is wrong, but I would be nice if we could. We have 1000's during teal at our lease in Roanoke. None during the big duck season
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Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:27 am to Willits479
Frivolous Tree-Duck. Have about a dozen that hang about in back yard and love to fly around and land on across the street roof.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:29 am to head_w
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Frivolous Tree-Duck.
Want to shoot!
We only have black bellied tree ducks on our lease.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:29 am to head_w
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Frivolous Tree-Duck
Fulvous is a slightly different critter.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:30 am to Willits479
hmm i thought those long tailed squealers were pinteal
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:30 am to wickowick
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:23 am to Willits479
You forgot the night time hooting squealer
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:40 am to Bullredbf
These and sandhill cranes have both found an appetite for corn and are constantly in our feeders in south tx.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:42 am to hardhead
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I think that is in the discussion/works for next year.
LDWF first proposed whistling ducks in the teal season bag limit 5 years ago, and the USFWS said "no" for 3 reasons:
1) The September teal season was established to take advantage of early-migrating blue-winged teal, and no other species should be allowed.
2) Adding a "big" duck to the bag during the September teal season increases the likelihood of hunters making mistakes; and in Louisiana, that mistake is likely a mottled duck, which the feds are very concerned about.
3) We lack good information on population size, survival rates, harvest rates, and distribution across their range to support increasing harvest pressure.
Of course, 1) is not relevant (or so we thought) because the USFWS allows teal/wood duck seasons, and 2) would be addressed by doing "hunter performance studies" (ie. spy blinds) during an experimental period where whistling ducks and teal were allowed during the September season. But 3) is a legitimate objection,l and we have been banding about 3,000 per year the last couple of years and doing a pilot study with radio-transmitters in an attempt to gather vital rate and distribution data.
But with the completion of the Teal Assessment and discussions about liberalizations of the September season to take advantage of the additional harvest potential (the first of which is the increase in bag limit from 4 to 6), the USFWS has been crystal clear that there will be NO ADDITIONAL SPECIES ALLOWED IN THE TEAL SEASON BAG LIMIT. They have instructed the 3 states that have teal/wood duck seasons that they will have to give up the wood ducks if they want to add days to their season.
So as of right now, whistling ducks ARE NOT and probably WILL NOT be allowed during the September teal season.
Our only real option to take advantage of a clearly increasing whistling duck population is to work toward a special Whistling Duck season. Maybe an early-October season after the teal season closes. Stuff to ruminate on.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:43 am to AlxTgr
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you know i'm trolling and you argue with me anyway
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:48 am to GotDucks?
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Frivolous Tree-Duck.
Want to shoot!
We only have black bellied tree ducks on our lease.
There a definitely two types...
We (LA) have primarily Black Bellied Tree Ducks.
Fulvous Whistling ducks are found in SE LA and more predominantly around the bend of Texas on down to Mexico.
Both squel and are often called Mexican Squealers interchangeably by coonasses.
As you can see, these maps don't tell us shite.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:23 pm to Bullredbf
Kill all you want. Didn't some state lege say they're whistling "birds" and not "ducks?" Blast away, Kemo Sabe!
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:29 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
In pecan island, we see lots of the Fulvous
We killed a few early on in big duck season
We killed a few early on in big duck season
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:48 pm to Lreynolds
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Our only real option to take advantage of a clearly increasing whistling duck population is to work toward a special Whistling Duck season. Maybe an early-October season after the teal season closes. Stuff to ruminate on.
Would be awesome.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:57 pm to Clyde Tipton
quote:FIFY
We (LA) have primarily Spoon Bills and Ninjas.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:02 pm to Lreynolds
quote:PISSES me off sooo damn much when someone shoots a Summer French during teal season
2) Adding a "big" duck to the bag during the September teal season increases the likelihood of hunters making mistakes; and in Louisiana, that mistake is likely a mottled duck, which the feds are very concerned about.
there is NO WAY IN HELL you mistook a damn mottled duck for a blue-winged teal
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:05 pm to Clyde Tipton
We used to have em by the thousands, I suppose after they cleaned out our fields they left us alone. Tasty ugly bastards though
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:45 pm to MrCoachKlein
quote:There have been times where this quote would make sense. This is not one of them.
you know i'm trolling and you argue with me anyway
Posted on 7/16/13 at 1:45 pm to Clyde Tipton
I had to go look up the names of these ducks. I would have bet money the black belly was the whistling duck and the fulvous was the tree duck. Seems as if tree duck whistling duck part is interchangeable for both species. Who woulda thunk'd it?
Posted on 7/16/13 at 2:07 pm to head_w
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Frivolous Tree-Duck.
A duck that spends money or files lawsuits without much care or thought? Ohhhh a Fulvous...
Two years ago I first drew a bead on the black-bellies, almost didn't seem fair, felt like I was shooting at a seagull as it flew right to us. They came right in to some whistling on a perfectly straight flight path, nothing tricky about putting one of these on the water. Waves on waves of them in the Klondike area marshes
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 2:08 pm
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