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man missing in wilderness (AK)
Posted on 11/22/12 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 11/22/12 at 5:53 pm
Doubt he is ever heard of again, but if he has the skills...who knows..
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Not sure this if this is a case of Chris McCandless type of stuff or just someone who got lost and/or met up with bears. You can go hundreds of miles up there and not see a sign of man.
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Seibold began his trip at an Alaska Native fish camp in the southeastern part of the state, and from there traveled north along the Tanana River near Fairbanks, all while living outdoors.
By September, Seibold had traveled to the northwest Alaska village of Ambler. Traveling ever farther north, Seibold trekked about 30 miles up the Ambler River to the cabin home of a woman Song's contacts had put him in touch with, and her 13-year-old son. Seibold remained with the mother and son until Sept. 27, when he left with the intention, Song said, of hiking farther north to Gates of the Arctic National Park and Preserve.
No one is reported to have seen or heard from Seibold since that late September day. Alaska state police were alerted when Seibold missed a Nov. 11 flight from Kobuk that was supposed to begin his return trip to Wisconsin.
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Those several days have stretched into almost two months, but Song expressed confidence that as long as Seibold's faculties remained intact, he could survive.
"He is well-experienced," Song said. "He's gone on reindeer hunts in Norway's interior. He's a midwinter guide. If he's not injured or delirious, he will stay alive."
Not sure this if this is a case of Chris McCandless type of stuff or just someone who got lost and/or met up with bears. You can go hundreds of miles up there and not see a sign of man.
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 6:06 pm
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Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Maybe I'm asking a dumb question here, but that time of year, wouldn't you want to head South, not North?
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:13 pm to hashbrowns
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Maybe I'm asking a dumb question here, but that time of year, wouldn't you want to head South, not North?
Yeah, in the Brooks Range it's winter in September. If he's dead, he will never be found. Kind of interesting since he had extensive survival experience, even in the arctic. Makes you wonder if he isn't trying to make a go of it.
You could live up there and never be discovered. Most folks I have talked to seem to think he may have been a last meal before hibernation for some bear.
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Interesting. Sounds like he's an outdoorsman, vs that into the wild douche. Hope he makes it out.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:57 pm to AUCE05
RIP
1 man cannot live alone off the land un supported, toss in that environment he is dead. Train all you want but real world is much different
1 man cannot live alone off the land un supported, toss in that environment he is dead. Train all you want but real world is much different
Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:05 pm to Cracker
I give him a 10% chance. He may have found a trappers cabin somewhere and can live a month or so without much food. Probably bear food though
Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Kind of interesting since he had extensive survival experience, even in the arctic. Makes you wonder if he isn't trying to make a go of it.
You can have all the experience in the world but take the wrong turn at the wrong time and
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last meal before hibernation for some bear.
It's a real crap time of year to decide to just go for it on your own out there, experienced or not. Probably just got unlucky with a bear.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
To put myself in his shoes is utterly terrifying. I can't imagine being in the middle of wilderness with no chance of human contact for hundreds of miles.
I freak out when I'm off the beaten path in a local WMA.
I freak out when I'm off the beaten path in a local WMA.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:11 pm to TulaneUVA
Yea, very unlikely if hes out on his own, that hes been alive anytime in the last month. From the sound of how it is up there though, he could be with someone in a cabin in the middle of BFE waiting it out or something. Slim chance I would think, even for someone trained since hes been out of touch so long.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably bear food though
Exactly what I thought when reading the thread title. One last protein surge before hibernation.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:10 pm to TulaneUVA
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To put myself in his shoes is utterly terrifying. I can't imagine being in the middle of wilderness with no chance of human contact for hundreds of miles.
I freak out when I'm off the beaten path in a local WMA.
Yeah, that area is as isolated as there is on any populated continent. I bet he stored supplies somewhere and went out to "test" himself and didn't make it.
Even guys who live in the bush usually rely on occasional supplies from outside. If he's alive he will have to surface sometime.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:18 pm to glassman
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Probably bear food though
Exactly what I thought when reading the thread title. One last protein surge before hibernation.
I can't really think of much of a worse way to go. It probably isn't instant.
I know a guy who lives here and he has been attacked 4 times. He is a bear researcher for F&G. There is a documentary on Netflix in which he is featured called Bear Island
LaVern Beier
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 11/22/12 at 11:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Jim Rockford started a thread titled "Thomas Sebold is missing" on 11/20. His link was to an Alaska Dispatch article that provides a little more detail than the ABC link. (Not trying to bust your arse with the OT "Germans" bullshite. I'm on my phone and don't know how to link the Alaska Dispatch article.)
He wasn't reported missing until early Nov., when he missed a pick-up flight. The last sign of him was at the Swedish woman's cabin on or about Oct. 7th. He left a .22 and a 30.06 at the cabin, which makes the searchers think he didn't leave on the next leg of his trip.
The Dalton Hwy is 200 miles to the east. Maybe we'll see him hitchhiking on the new season of Ice Road Truckers.
He wasn't reported missing until early Nov., when he missed a pick-up flight. The last sign of him was at the Swedish woman's cabin on or about Oct. 7th. He left a .22 and a 30.06 at the cabin, which makes the searchers think he didn't leave on the next leg of his trip.
The Dalton Hwy is 200 miles to the east. Maybe we'll see him hitchhiking on the new season of Ice Road Truckers.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 11:47 pm to White Roach
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Jim Rockford started a thread titled "Thomas Sebold is missing" on 11/20. His link was to an Alaska Dispatch article that provides a little more detail than the ABC link. (Not trying to bust your arse with the OT "Germans" bullshite. I'm on my phone and don't know how to link the Alaska Dispatch article.)
He wasn't reported missing until early Nov., when he missed a pick-up flight. The last sign of him was at the Swedish woman's cabin on or about Oct. 7th. He left a .22 and a 30.06 at the cabin, which makes the searchers think he didn't leave on the next leg of his trip.
The Dalton Hwy is 200 miles to the east. Maybe we'll see him hitchhiking on the new season of Ice Road Truckers.
Did a search and didn't find it. Search feature sucks though. Here is the dispatch article. LINK
He isn't going to make it to the Dalton Hwy.
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
I get the distinct impression that the cops are thinking that his body is not too far from the cabin. Heart attack, bear attack, fell through the ice, something...
I'm pretty sure this guy is dead as a mackerel. In the highly unlikely event he surfaces alive, I'm waiting to hear his wilderness survival tale.
(And again, for the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick about the other link. You're one of the more civil posters on this site and I enjoy your AK pics.)
I'm pretty sure this guy is dead as a mackerel. In the highly unlikely event he surfaces alive, I'm waiting to hear his wilderness survival tale.
(And again, for the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick about the other link. You're one of the more civil posters on this site and I enjoy your AK pics.)
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:19 am to White Roach
The whole thing seems a bit strange IMO.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
I've driven through Atigun Pass, but that hardly makes me an authority on the Brooks Range and/or Gates of the Arctic NP. This guy seems to be way too experienced to make a silly mistake (a la Timothy Treadwell), but who knows?
Maybe he broke his leg on a dayhike, maybe he surprised a hungry bear, maybe he fell through bad ice, maybe he decided to embark on an eternal vision quest... Who knows? I suspect we'll never find out much about what happened to him.
Maybe he broke his leg on a dayhike, maybe he surprised a hungry bear, maybe he fell through bad ice, maybe he decided to embark on an eternal vision quest... Who knows? I suspect we'll never find out much about what happened to him.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
He doesn't even need to be bear food.
He could just turn an ankle or break a bone and be almost as certainly dead.
He could just turn an ankle or break a bone and be almost as certainly dead.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:10 am to White Roach
I've flown through Atigun and Anaktuvuk Passes, and have been in Ambler. No matter how much of a survivalist you fancy yourself, your chances of survival with minimal gear is minimal in summer, much less winter.
It would be interesting to find out what happened to him but I doubt we will ever find out.
It would be interesting to find out what happened to him but I doubt we will ever find out.
This post was edited on 11/23/12 at 1:11 am
Posted on 11/23/12 at 1:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
What's your over/under on how many miles away from the cabin they find his bones? (Assuming they ever find any trace trace of this guy.)
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