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re: Louisiana trout V.S. Texas trout
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:01 am to Melvin Spellvin
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:01 am to Melvin Spellvin
Article from NOLA About Your Question
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Statewide, a decrease to a 15-fish bag limit would likely reduce harvest by 8 percent, and change the number of trout in the population by even less," he said.
That's because, when it comes to speckled trout, most anglers can't catch their own backsides with both hands.
"On average, success is low," Adriance said. "A majority of anglers catch well less than a limit, and 65 percent of anglers catch five trout or less per trip, based upon 2015 LA Creel data."
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 12:02 am
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 7:56 am to maisweh
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Sorry you can't catch a limit.
Like you catch a limit every trip.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 8:07 am to HogIslandDuckman
this stupid-assed discussion gets started every summer. louisiana/we have more habitat and hence more fish and therefor can catch and keep more fish.
don't mess with it, the fishery is doing a-ok
don't mess with it, the fishery is doing a-ok
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:21 am to Motorboat
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Like you catch a limit every trip
Well if you would ever come with me we can really put a hurt on them...
But after tarpon rodeo
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:28 am to Barf
quote:redfish IS considered a gamefish in Louisiana
I'd rather see redfish given gamefish protection.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:33 am to Melvin Spellvin
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is it necessary to keep 25 twelve inch trout, seems like an awful lot of fish...
I like eating fish
Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:52 am to DownSouthDave
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However, all research has indicated that the fishery is so prolific, recreational fishing can't put a dent in it.
This is the bottom line. Natural mortality in trout is sky high and they reproduce fast as a result. Even though it seems like a million people fish for trout in south LA, rod and reel doesn't make a meaningful impact on their numbers. Habitat is the largest determining factor for average size and population density in speckled trout.
Texas has bigger trout over numbers because the habitat there favors bigger trout over numbers.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:02 am to TheDrunkenTigah
What about the size at Big Lake? Caused by the lower limit or no?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:13 am to AlxTgr
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What about the size at Big Lake? Caused by the lower limit or no?
Caused by the habitat. Big Lake has always been a big trout fishery a la Texas. The impact of the limit change has been studied extensively and there was no significant impact on the trout population due to it. LDWF knew it would have no impact before hand but it was driven by political pressure from a couple guys who thought it would help from what I understand.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:13 am to AlxTgr
i believe the avg size of trout are impacted by fishing pressure and accessibility, areas with lower avg size fish are easier to access and have higher number of fisherman and vice versa, more pressure smaller trout...
Posted on 7/26/16 at 11:17 am to AlxTgr
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What about the size at Big Lake? Caused by the lower limit or no?
no, just the opposite. big lake had a 25 fish limit along with the rest of the state for several years. we still caught hammer-sized trout back then. me and a buddy caught a 2-man limit of 50 trout several years ago that filled up my 120 qt ice chest (pre-yeti days) when we added 16# ice. this was before cell phones with cameras so no pics were taken.
in an effort to keep the "houstonians" from pounding it to nothing ldwf lowered the limit to its current format.
big lake seems to go through ebbs and flows with the trout's size.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:04 pm to mack the knife
I've ready a few articles about different fisheries that state that a given fishery has a particular amount of biomass that it can sustain. If you reduce the number of fish taken from a given fishery, then the average sized fish goes down because there is less forage to go around. Some places are just set up to grow bigger fish.
The places in Louisiana that have bigger trout are areas that have access to deeper waters. Much of our marshes do not get that deep. I cannot speak for the Texas fisheries.
The places in Louisiana that have bigger trout are areas that have access to deeper waters. Much of our marshes do not get that deep. I cannot speak for the Texas fisheries.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 2:05 pm to HogIslandDuckman
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Louisiana trout V.S. Texas trout
I really wish Louisiana would go to 14" minimum and 15 bag limit
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:46 pm to redneck
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I really wish Louisiana would go to 14" minimum and 15 bag limit
wouldn't do much according to research, but if it makes you feel better
like stated before by DrunkenTigah the Big Lake restrictions weren't for biological implications (to produce larger fish).
The were for social reasons...sort of like the Tripletail regulation that the commission passed a couple of years ago.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:48 pm to redneck
Why 15 and 14"?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:20 pm to redneck
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I really wish Louisiana would go to 14" minimum and 15 bag limit
Why do you hate science? Why do people think that trout can be managed like bass in a private pond?
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:27 am to Melvin Spellvin
you act like 25 specks are all that's swimming in the ocean and it is unfair because somebody else gets to keep them
Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:37 am to MadtownTiger
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I like the smaller school trout, better eating to me personally.
Anything above 18 I don't keep cause the meat gets oily.
Yep, I wish I could eat rat red just once. I've heard so much from old timers about how tasty they are.
Posted on 7/27/16 at 12:22 pm to jimbeam
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Why 15 and 14"?
Because he's from florida and naturally enjoys catching less fish
Posted on 8/1/16 at 2:12 pm to rduple2
Upper Texas coast- Deeper bays. We still have a 10 fish limit. Inland side of bays is estuary with mix of back lakes, bayous, mud bottom, sand bottom on gulf boundary, and oysters. In Galveston we have 1000's of acres of oyster reefs
I have a 26"er to my name, but catch a ton of 14"ers. I wish the size limit was 14".
Most big fish are caught wading shorelines and flats, reefs, and islands. The big ones don't like the boats.
South of Sargent (North East Matagorda Bay)- typically shallower grass and sand flats and have gone to a 5 fish limit. I fish the West Matagorda/Port O'Connor area from time to time. For STAR tourney they still pull out 32"ers down there.
In Texas the talk is "Keep 5" and ban croakers. I wouldn't care either way, but don't think its a good idea to tell people how to fish.
I have a 26"er to my name, but catch a ton of 14"ers. I wish the size limit was 14".
Most big fish are caught wading shorelines and flats, reefs, and islands. The big ones don't like the boats.
South of Sargent (North East Matagorda Bay)- typically shallower grass and sand flats and have gone to a 5 fish limit. I fish the West Matagorda/Port O'Connor area from time to time. For STAR tourney they still pull out 32"ers down there.
In Texas the talk is "Keep 5" and ban croakers. I wouldn't care either way, but don't think its a good idea to tell people how to fish.
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