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Louisiana House approves bill to increase hunting and fishing license fees

Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:24 am
Posted by Curado Roy
Member since Apr 2021
100 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:24 am
Fee increase = tax increase.


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The Louisiana House approves legislation to increase certain hunting and fishing license fees, raising millions of dollars for the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. Prairieville Representative Tony Bacala says a fee hike is necessary because LDWF can no longer rely on a pot of money from the Conversation Fund, which holds mineral revenues from oil and gas drilling in wildlife management areas.

“When life was good with those mineral revenues, they stacked it away in a savings account, and as it became more lean, they were taking money out, and now the savings account is practically depleted,” said Bacala.

The vote was 79-20 in favor of restructuring Louisiana’s hunting and fishing licenses. The measure still needs Senate approval. Bacala says if they do not raise fees, then the state would have to take money from the general fund to pay for the operations of LDWF.

“That’s something we can’t do, that’s a bridge that can’t be built, a raise that can’t be given,” said Bacala.

Bacala says the average sportsmen’s license will not go up by more than 10-dollars and some activities will be combined. He says the commercial fishermen’s rates have been in place since 1986.

“By and large most are not going to pay $250 more than what they are paying today to make money off of the state’s resources,” said Bacala.

If the Senate approves Bacala’s bill, half of the rate increases would start on June 1, 2022, the remaining half would kick in two years later.


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This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 8:25 am
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:02 am to
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to make money off of the state’s resources


This is the key part of the statement right here.

These are not your resources, they all belong to the state. You should simply be honored that they let you pay for the access to them.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:09 am to
Summary of proposed fee changes - LDWF website

Its fairly reasonable increases on the individual stuff. I'm not familiar with the current commercial license fees. For deer hunting, if you hunt primitive or archery then the new proposal is actually cheaper since they're including primitive and archery with your big game license/deer tags instead of making you buy those separately. Same for getting rid of separate gear licenses and just including it with your basic fishing license.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
738 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:15 am to
Lets charge more, so you can do less! Coast is declining at a rapid rate, more tidal waters have been posted in the last 5 years, then in the last 20, but more money for the state to waste!
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48930 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:20 am to
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These are not your resources, they all belong to the state. You should simply be honored that they let you pay for the access to them.

Yes because the North American model of conservation just doesn't work... jackass
Posted by Sparty3131
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2019
641 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:24 am to
Licenses are really cheap here. So raising them is not the end of the world. A basic fishing license for a CA resident is $50. Use the extra money to hire game wardens to sit by launches and arrest turds that litter
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:25 am to
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then the state would have to take money from the general fund to pay for the operations of LDWF.

“That’s something we can’t do, that’s a bridge that can’t be built, a raise that can’t be given,” said Bacala.

We give an incredible amount of money to this state and get jack shite out of it, so go for it.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8360 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:26 am to
I never understood why bow and primitive were not included. One less thing to worry about. I’m fairly happy with the increases. The only thing I’d change is make youth lifetime $300 to give an incentive to getting it early. Other than that, I’d expect more projects for improvement to be happening if the state gets these new increases in place, not more law enforcement.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:28 am to
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We give an incredible amount of money to this state


Uh, it's stolen by the state actually.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
738 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:49 am to
And licenses are even cheaper in other locations. You actually aspire to be on the level of taxation that California is? Insane.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9567 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:08 am to
I hate paying the government but hunting/fishing licenses are an exception to me. If we don't pay the there will be no play.


I enjoy being outside and I am fine with paying for it. There's not a damn thing free in this world and half of the population would gladly shitcan hunting and fishing opportunities.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 10:09 am
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6420 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:25 am to
I wish they had something that would include everything. Even the "Sportsman Paradise" are missing a few items if you hunt and fish everything.. public and/or private..
I think they do it on purpose to write tickets because even though you have $125 worth of licenses you forgot about some fricking stamp or endorsement...
But this is just me bitching. Maybe the new process will fix some of this.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:41 am to
I have a lifetime license and I think it is really silly to sell those to people over 60 so cheap. I paid $50.

A 16 year old kid will pay more for one year.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:49 pm to
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Even the "Sportsman Paradise" are missing a few items if you hunt and fish everything.. public and/or private..
Pretty sure the Sportsman Paradise license covers everything except the federal duck stamp. I know the fed duck stamp is the only thing I have to buy anymore with my lifetime license
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
1960 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:47 pm to
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LDWF can no longer rely on a pot of money from the Conversation Fund


Is that the one where they pay to converse about posting more water ways? Seems to be a huge fund in south Louisiana.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13808 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:11 pm to
We give them more money and things will improve.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12707 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:27 pm to
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Fee increase = tax increase.

Jesus Christ, some of you want everything for free. It's not like the cost of doing business hasn't gone up or anything crazy like that, huh?

The cost to hunt everything annually is going up by something like $3.

Yeah, Fishing went up more, but it encompasses over $100 in gear licenses. So the state is actually giving up quite a bit of money there.

This is just another example of people complaining about anything in this state. People spend thousands of dollars on all the name brand camo, shotgun shells, benellis, four wheelers, and all the other gear that isn't necessary to kill an animal, but complain about the cheapest aspect of hunting in this state.

I spend more on my licenses each year than any other aspect of hunting (save for gas), and I don't care one bit if the cost to go hunting went up $3. Or if the cost to go fishing went up $10. That's 2 combo meals at McDonald's. I can deal with that.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5820 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:40 pm to
LDWF is currently the best funded Department by far. Go look at how old their trucks are they turn in for auction.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12707 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:53 pm to
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LDWF is currently the best funded Department by far.

Not sure if serious, but not according to the current state budget.

There are 14 government departments with higher funding levels than LDWF according to the 2020-21 Budget, and I guarantee you none of them have to generate their own funds and every one of them receives money from the general fund, unlike LDWF.

Some of the departments/categories with more funding than LDWF: DOTD, Public Safety, Corrections, Higher Education, Dept of Education, "Ancillary", "Non-Appropriated", "Other Requirements", Executive, and Health and Hospitals. Higher Ed, Education, Executive, "Other Requirements", and H&H all eclipse the $1 billion mark, with H&H over $17 billion and Dept of Ed over $5 billion.

But people think LDWF is the one wasting money? We have one of the worst healthcare systems in the Nation, and are at bottom in Education, but spend over $22 billion combined on those 2, and that doesn't count the nearly $3 billion on Higher Ed.
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1039 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:50 pm to
People bitching about fee increases don't understand what is at stake. The increases themselves will generate more revenue, but also qualify the state to receive more matching funds from federal excise taxes of outdoors sales. That alone will be $6 million at least, but probably much more.

Here's the rub...if we don't generate additional license revenue to qualify for matching funds, that money goes to other states...like California. It doesn't get saved, or refunded to taxpayers. We lose and California gains.
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