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re: Let's talk high-end bass rods ($150+)

Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18183 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:02 am to
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Billy kistler is back in the rod game again with Pride rods. He started All Star and Castaway and helped his son with Kistler rods.


That's promising. I wish he'd just update his old rods with new tech blanks. It's hard to find new rods that I like because I prefer a shorter butt with cork grip.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:17 am to
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KSII Elite 6'10" Med/F ($170)


I'm looking for a casting rod that'll throw lightweight stuff but still has backbone, and this sounds like what I'm looking for. Most of my stuff is St Croix but they don't have the right specs for this one.

ETA: Yikes, it lists a 14.75" handle on Tackle Warehouse. That's ok out of a boat but I kayak fish a lot and it's a pita on a kayak. I may try it and cut it down.

I have an Avid saltwater that I love, but it's a ML spinning setup. I have an MF Avid X on a baitcaster for bass, and in addition to the micro-guides (it was a failed experiment for me) I don't find it remarkably different than the Premier I have. It's not bad enough to get rid of but I wouldn't buy another one.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:23 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15987 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:19 am to
I had a Denali N2 that was superb. 7’ MH Fast. Used it for tx rigged soft plastics. Unfortunately after years of use I broke it. Replaced it with the newer N3 and while it’s a great rod, I don’t like it as much as the N2. It feels cheaper.

Hard to beat Dobyns, also.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:21 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87350 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:10 am to
There's always a few discussions of best rod for the money going on at BBC. You will see a wide assortment of brands mentioned like you do here. One from late last year caught my eye due to the number of similar recs for the Daiwa Tatula TTU series. I've never handled one, but they get a lot of love over there.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:16 am to
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ETA: Yikes, it lists a 14.75" handle on Tackle Warehouse


That must be from top of reel seat or some weird measurement. I'll take some pics at lunch. It's not a super long handle by any means
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15987 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:22 am to
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I've never handled one,


Rods are one of a few things I’ll never buy online. I have to put it in my hand and get a feel for it. Also thoroughly inspect them. I have an assortment of brands because there is no one size fits all for every application.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:27 am to
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Rods are one of a few things I’ll never buy online.


Used to be that way but the supply chain shortages have made it damn near impossible to get so much in hand these days and tacklewarehouse.com makes it easy to return. Free shipping and return label in the rod tube should you need it.
Posted by Bass_Fanatic
Pineville
Member since Jun 2021
143 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 12:11 pm to
I’ve used just about every major rod company out there. My least favorite was Duckett, Favorite,Denali, and St.Croix. I’m very particular with my rods and have found that I always go back to my Dobyns and Irod. The Irod Genesis III is the best bang for the buck at $150 IMO. They make a rod for just about everything. The 7’5” Fred’s Magic Stick, 7’2” Stone Cold vibrating jig rod, and 7’10” Bama rig special are always on my deck. Dobyns Champion Extreme 784ML jig rod is another favorite with a Carolina rig, fb jig, and single swimbait.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 12:34 pm to
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ETA: Yikes, it lists a 14.75" handle on Tackle Warehouse. That's ok out of a boat but I kayak fish a lot and it's a pita on a kayak. I may try it and cut it down.



Here it is next to a tape measure and an expride. The handle length on TW is to the top of the foregrip it looks like. From the trigger on the reel seat to the butt, it's right at 10.5" and from butt to top of cork is right at 10".
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 12:44 pm to
Appreciate it, I may give that one a shot. I've got a new JDM Zillion that needs a better home than the Avid X. I will never have another micro-guide rod again.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 12:53 pm to
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Appreciate it, I may give that one a shot.


It's currently on sale at a couple of different places too:

Halo KSII Elite - $112 @ Midwayusa.com (only 1 in stock though in this model)

Halo KSII Elite - $130 @ Sportsmansoutfitters.com
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:09 pm to
$120 with tax, on its way. If it's as good as you say that's a nice deal; appreciate the heads up. The Zillion is really good with weightless stuff and I need a rod to match.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:35 pm to
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JDM Zillion

Where'd you order from? Asian fishing portal?
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:38 pm to
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I bet Billy would make you one like your old all star.


You have given me hope brother
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28043 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 3:55 pm to
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Where'd you order from? Asian fishing portal?



JDM Tackle Heaven. I've used Digitaka before as well for a Luvais before they started selling them here. I've looked at AFP but never ordered anything.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:07 pm to
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JDM Tackle Heaven. I've used Digitaka before as well for a Luvais before they started selling them here. I've looked at AFP but never ordered anything.


Have you made the BFS plunge yet? The US market rod offerings don't really fit my needs (looking for shorter rods than the 7' and longer offerings). But I know there are lots of other options if you jump to jdm gear.
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
2050 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:34 pm to
One of the new Expride Bs is a 7'2 Medium Light, should be a good pairing for a BFS reel
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6955 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:57 pm to
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One of the new Expride Bs is a 7'2 Medium Light, should be a good pairing for a BFS reel


The curado, zodias and exride lines all have essentially that same rod I think. From what I've heard it's really nice, but I'm looking for something under 7' due to how I fish. In the jdm exprides, there are several sub 7ft bfs options I'm looking at but I've been hesitant to pull the trigger with it coming from overseas. Nervous about the shipping.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15987 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 7:23 am to
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Used to be that way but the supply chain shortages have made it damn near impossible to get so much in hand these days and tacklewarehouse.com makes it easy to return. Free shipping and return label in the rod tube should you need it.


Well, maybe I shouldn't say never. That seems pretty convenient. I may be willing to give that a shot.

I didn't realize there were rod shortages, too. I haven't had to buy one in a while.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12446 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 9:00 am to
One I don’t see mentioned very much is Cajun Custom Rods. I have two of their rods and have been very happy with them. They make their own blanks and have a wide selection to choose from.

Check out Cashion Rods as well if you haven’t already.
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