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re: Land Cruiser...would you buy it?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:42 pm to Motorboat
Posted on 3/17/17 at 2:42 pm to Motorboat
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and be disappointed. the interiors on them are horrendous.
I agree. They are horrendous, but if the OP is hauling over 5000lbs, he needs a larger vehicle than a Land Cruiser. The only thing larger than a LC in Toyota's lineup is a Sequoia.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:27 pm to cdaniel76
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Sequoia
What a steaming pile of shite those are
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:26 pm to KingRanch
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Now, a 5.7-liter, 381-horsepower V-8, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission is standard in the Land Cruiser and optional for Sequoia.
A major difference between these two big Toyota SUVs is their suspensions. Land Cruiser is focused on being off-road tough with its rigid rear axle and four-link coil spring rear suspension. Sequoia is more about ride comfort and has independent double-wishbone, coil-spring suspension all around.
An available air-suspension package and Active Variable Suspension, with settings for comfort, normal and sport, improves the ride comfort and augments the Sequoia's ability to tow and haul heavy loads while maintaining an appropriate ride height and chassis attitude.
To enhance off-road performance, Land Cruiser's suspension is augmented with a relatively simple roll control system that varies roll resistance while accommodating uneven road surfaces.
A very clever feature that sets the Land Cruiser apart from Sequoia — and all other SUVs — is a new electro-mechanical system called "crawl control." Crawl Control takes care of the chore of keeping a steady pace over rough terrain through the use of electronic throttle control and a combination of stability control and antilock braking. In operation, all the driver has to do is make sure the transfer case is in 4L, activate the system with a center console switch, and select one of three crawl speeds. The driver just needs to steer while modern technology takes care of the rest. It's like a very capable low-speed cruise control.
Land Cruiser and Sequoia share the same basic four-wheel-drive system — one that can be shifted on the fly between 2WD and 4WD at speeds up to 62 mph, or left in 4WD full-time, even on dry pavement. The Torson limited-slip center differential provides a normal 40/60 front-to-rear torque split, but can vary from 50/50 to 30/70 depending on traction conditions. When the center differential is locked, the torque split is fixed at 50/50.
The Land Cruiser, with its well-known reliability and capability, is the iconic vehicle that helped Toyota gain its first foothold in the world automobile market. Over the years, it has evolved from a basic four-wheel drive utility vehicle into an upscale vehicle with the capability of the original Land Cruiser and the comfort and convenience of a luxury sedan. Much of Land Cruiser's iconic status has rubbed off on Sequoia buyers.
Toyota's two-vehicle, large-SUV strategy focuses on two very different buyers. Land Cruiser buyers are college-educated males and middle-aged, with a household income of $237,000. Almost half of them are married with children and use their SUV as a family hauler or for vacations.
Since its introduction, Sequoia had maintained one of the youngest buyers in the large-SUV segment with an average age of 40. It is a family hauler, since nearly 60 percent of Sequoia owners are married with children. They have an average household income of $106,000.
So, simple logic would lead the buyer to the Sequoia with its long list of comfort and convenience features. But emotion and status are powerful factors for many buyers, and owning a vehicle with a "King of Off-Road" reputation could be more important than comfort or convenience. You decide.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:35 pm to DownSouthDave
I'm looking for a 1995-1997 LC. Always wanted one... going to do a full rebuild/restore on it.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:42 pm to Damone
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Those ARB and Slee bumpers look really sharp.
Yes they do. I have a 2004 LC that my wife drives. She has been dropping hints she is ready to get a new ride but damn I hate to get rid of a vehicle that has barely been broken in for a Toyota at 130K miles and has been paid off. Plus, this aftermarket stuff is giving me ideas.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:21 am to BoostAddict
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I'm looking for a 1995-1997 LC. Always wanted one... going to do a full rebuild/restore on it
Those are the best years of the 80 series. Head gasket may blow at 100k and the factory temp gauge doesn't work. Other than that, they are solid.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 12:46 pm to bhtigerfan
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'77 FJ40 for $24,900 in Tallahassee.
I'm a Toyota nerd - I would drive the shite out of that.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 2:56 pm to MWP
You should hold onto it as a third vehicle and outfit it for trail or overland trips.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:03 pm to GaryMyMan
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From 1999 to 2007 it was. In 2008, with the new body style, it became the LX 570. (4.7L to 5.7L eng
Anyone have the lx470 version? Whats the ride quality like?
I have a 2006 4runner that I use as a daily driver but would like something a little bigger that rides better.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 5:22 pm to diat150
Pretty sure the only difference with the 470 is that they came with a better stereo/speakers, sound deadening under carpet and door panels, and different wood trim.
Anyone looking for either model should make sure it has lockers if you plan to off-road. It was an option for both, not standard.
Anyone looking for either model should make sure it has lockers if you plan to off-road. It was an option for both, not standard.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 6:09 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Pretty sure the only difference with the 470 is that they came with a better stereo/speakers, sound deadening under carpet and door panels, and different wood trim.
Literally the quietest, smoothest ride imaginable. Almost too quiet.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 7:21 pm to diat150
I have a 2007 GX I would sell. It's a Land Cruiser Prado
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:04 pm to DownSouthDave
Posted on 3/18/17 at 8:32 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Pretty sure the only difference with the 470 is that they came with a better stereo/speakers, sound deadening under carpet and door panels, and different wood trim.
Anyone looking for either model should make sure it has lockers if you plan to off-road. It was an option for both, not standard.
If you're talking about LX470s then they were never offered with rear lockers in the US. 98/99 Land Cruisers had optional rear lockers. 2000-present, they both went with atrac.
Posted on 3/18/17 at 9:03 pm to KingRanch
quote:I bought a 2006 GX at auction a couple days ago and have been driving it since then.
I have a 2007 GX
Very nice vehicle. Lots of power, great ride and very quiet.
Posted on 3/19/17 at 8:11 am to Ton
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with rear lockers in the US. 98/99 Land Cruisers had optional rear lockers. 2000-present, they both went with atrac.
Huh, never knew that. I just assumed that because my friend had one with front and rear lockers. I guess it was a Canadian model.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:01 am to Sparkplug#1
Old bump, but didn't want to start another land cruiser thread lol.
Long story short, I had a medical emergency about a month ago that has sidelined me from driving for a little bit. In this time, my wife has been driving my 2015 4runner 4x4 and much prefers it to her 2014 explorer. She asked if we could sell the explorer for another 4runner and I told her no, but we could sell the explorer if I could get something I wanted... I love different vehicles. I have always liked LR Disco's, but they are tremendously unreliable. I also love older Land Cruisers.
I have found a 1988 BJ74 for sale. It's a Japan import, Right hand drive, 5-speed turbo diesel with the 13bt engine. For a 30 year old vehicle, it's in great shape and the price is very right. My question here is, how hard is it to get parts/repairs done if needed on a truck like this? The 13bt is damn near bullet proof and is one of the best turbo diesels Toyota have put in a cruiser, but shite happens and things break.
Yes, this will be my daily driver and I will drive the shite out of it. Anyone have one of a 74 or a diesel cruiser?
Long story short, I had a medical emergency about a month ago that has sidelined me from driving for a little bit. In this time, my wife has been driving my 2015 4runner 4x4 and much prefers it to her 2014 explorer. She asked if we could sell the explorer for another 4runner and I told her no, but we could sell the explorer if I could get something I wanted... I love different vehicles. I have always liked LR Disco's, but they are tremendously unreliable. I also love older Land Cruisers.
I have found a 1988 BJ74 for sale. It's a Japan import, Right hand drive, 5-speed turbo diesel with the 13bt engine. For a 30 year old vehicle, it's in great shape and the price is very right. My question here is, how hard is it to get parts/repairs done if needed on a truck like this? The 13bt is damn near bullet proof and is one of the best turbo diesels Toyota have put in a cruiser, but shite happens and things break.
Yes, this will be my daily driver and I will drive the shite out of it. Anyone have one of a 74 or a diesel cruiser?
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:08 am to GEAUXLPOST
It is pretty difficult to find parts. You may want to check out Ih8mud.com for more comprehensive info on these vehicles.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:17 am to DownSouthDave
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What do you think, is a used LC with 100k on the odometer a pretty fair purchase for 20-25k?
I've recently started looking and that's about right for 2009 to 2011 with ~100k on them. Somewhat ironically, they hold their value better than their Lexus sibling (not a twin, because there are non-cosmetic differences in, particularly, the suspension of some models) the LX.
The motor for that generation is overengineered and should comfortably provide service (with proper maintenance, of course) until the chassis and body are no longer serviceable. Check the specs on the listed towing capability - 4k pounds should be within its capability, though.
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