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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:53 am to Salmon
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:53 am to Salmon
They banned deer hunting with dogs where I grew up. To seperate the rabbit hunters, dogs could only be a certain number of inches tall to run rabbits. Guess who kept running? The same bunch that everyone had the problem with to begin with. The respectable guys followed the law and quit.
ETA: so it is comparable to outlawing guns to get rid of crime when the criminals dont abide by the law to begin with.
ETA: so it is comparable to outlawing guns to get rid of crime when the criminals dont abide by the law to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 10:57 am
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:53 am to Salmon
Look at the people who are shot and killed on a daily basis by guns should we outlaw those as well....there will always be outlaws regardless
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:53 am to ZacAttack
Corn and food plots make deer go nocturnal.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:54 am to ZacAttack
How often do you see deer that aren't going 90 to nothing? Have you ever tried to stand or stalk hunt when dogs are being run? Have you ever done so, when neighboring hunting clubs had dogs run under your stand?
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:54 am to Salmon
quote:Sounds ridiculous, huh?
A lot of people will not be put in the situation to speed if they do not drive cars
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:55 am to dpark
Zero connection with peoples dogs running onto neighbors property
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:55 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I'm sticking with my stance that those who do not obey current laws will not obey additional laws.
Agree with that also. That's why my solution keeps you hunting with dogs, and solves my problems.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:56 am to Alahunter
I have never killed a deer that was running. Ever. And I've dog hunted my entire life. Never even shot at one running.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:56 am to Alahunter
I have hunted on the edge of cutovers when bordering leases are making a drive and have done quite well.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:57 am to Monticello
<-- not reading this whole thread, but will donate my $.02.
I think it is time for it to be banned. When it intrudes on the rights of others, it is time to stop. Every dog hunter knows that their dogs end up on someone else's property a good percentage of the time.
You can talk all you want about placing fines on those that break stricter dog hunting rules, but the wildlife agents are spread too thin as it is. No way to enforce new rules. I remember about two years ago driving on Highway 4 between Chatham and Columbia and seeing about twenty hunters lined up ON THE SHOULDER OF THE HIGHWAY, waiting for the dogs to run deer by them. Most of them had their shotguns/rifles laying on the ground as if they were simply taking in the view. Again, this was on a public highway with a good about of traffic. Not only was it brazen, it was an accident waiting to happen.
I think it is time for it to be banned. When it intrudes on the rights of others, it is time to stop. Every dog hunter knows that their dogs end up on someone else's property a good percentage of the time.
You can talk all you want about placing fines on those that break stricter dog hunting rules, but the wildlife agents are spread too thin as it is. No way to enforce new rules. I remember about two years ago driving on Highway 4 between Chatham and Columbia and seeing about twenty hunters lined up ON THE SHOULDER OF THE HIGHWAY, waiting for the dogs to run deer by them. Most of them had their shotguns/rifles laying on the ground as if they were simply taking in the view. Again, this was on a public highway with a good about of traffic. Not only was it brazen, it was an accident waiting to happen.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:58 am to Alahunter
My problem with your solution is the "these are my deer" part.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:58 am to dpark
Congrats for you. Some people choose not to hunt in clubs that have dogs, and don't wish to hunt off dogs from neighboring leases.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 10:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:The guilty flee-eth when no one pursue-eth.
I don't see one single person complaining about what I do,
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:00 am to drakeT1217
I get it but I shouldnt have to pay for their stupidity. Same could be said for you zero connection for those who do it legally and respect surrounding hunters. I have no problem with enforcement but to all together ban it is a ridiculous solution
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:00 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
My problem with your solution is the "these are my deer" part.
While they are on my property, they are. If they wander off property thats fine. They're free roaming. If they are run off by another clubs dogs. Problem. You're not getting that it seems, and want to offer absolutely no recourse for hunters like myself. That is why you have a growing number of hunters hating dog hunters and why you see less and less support of it.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:00 am to TigerDeacon
quote:
When it intrudes on the rights of others, it is time to stop.
as usual, everyone who dog hunts here always keep their dogs on their property and never disturbs other hunters. EVER.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:01 am to Alahunter
Yes I have tried to shoot deer when running in front of dogs from my stand. It's very hard, but fun and exhilarating at the same moment. Does it ruin my hunting? No. I could have sat there all day waiting for a deer to walk by and never seen one. With dogs I know there are deer moving somewhere.
Maybe you should learn how to shoot a moving target
Maybe you should learn how to shoot a moving target
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 11:05 am
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:02 am to Salmon
Idk what else to tell you. They just don't. Nobody hunts around me.
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:03 am to ZacAttack
quote:
Yes I have tried to shoot deer when running in front of dogs from my stand. It's very hard, but fun and exhilarating at the same moment.
ah yes, another reason to hate dog hunters
wounded deer limping all over the woods with buck shot in their arse
Posted on 11/27/12 at 11:03 am to ZacAttack
quote:
Yes I have tried to shoot deer when running in front of dogs from my stand. It's very hard, but fun and exhilarating at the same moment. Does it ruin my hunting? No.
And my solution would allow you to hunt that way. But if it did ruin a hunt or interfere with someone that didn't want that, they'd have a legal right to dispose of the animal.
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