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re: I'm seeing that the Trout limits were passed today.(updated with link)
Posted on 10/7/22 at 2:20 pm to gaetti15
Posted on 10/7/22 at 2:20 pm to gaetti15
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please explain how standardized independent fisheries surveys are supposed to work
Should we be concerned about the Marsh bass population if we set up a net for them in the Gulf of Mexico?
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 2:46 pm to LEASTBAY
Here's a better idea... get the pogie boats off the shore
Posted on 10/7/22 at 3:00 pm to The Boat
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Here's a better idea... get the pogie boats off the shore
Why not both?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 3:57 pm to hall59tiger
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Why not both?
Because we don't have a trout issue
We have a pogy boat issue
Posted on 10/7/22 at 4:06 pm to maisweh
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Because we don't have a trout issue We have a pogy boat issue
You certain of both of those things?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 5:41 pm to hall59tiger
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You certain of both of those things?
Yes.
We've had no trouble catching trout in Timbilair
Posted on 10/7/22 at 5:47 pm to maisweh
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Yes. We've had no trouble catching trout in Timbilair
So just based off of your personal experience? Hopefully LDWF is considering more than that. I’m all for some type of restrictions and I just had my best year in hopedale in the last 5 years.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 6:50 pm to hall59tiger
All of it is anecdotal but it’s crazy to limit hook and line fisherman while allowing the pogey boats to rape and pillage. Mississippi is going back to 14” after their study. I’m all in on Louisiana being 12 and 15. 13.5 and 15 doesn’t make much sense to me. Pogie boats need restrictions as well though
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:11 pm to nated14
The idea behind 13.5 is you significantly increase the spawning biomass because most trout are smaller. That and you give all trout the chance to spawn 1x and many of them the chance to spawn twice. I’m not saying that’s going to significantly revitalize our fishery but that’s the thinking behind the new rules.
If MS is going back to 14” it’s because increasing the size limit worked. That’s hopeful
If MS is going back to 14” it’s because increasing the size limit worked. That’s hopeful
Posted on 10/7/22 at 7:58 pm to hall59tiger
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If MS is going back to 14” it’s because increasing the size limit worked. That’s hopeful
Hopeful for what? There is no evidence of a problem.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:06 pm to TJG210
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Hopeful for what? There is no evidence of a problem.
pretty sure the assessment showed there is a problem with seatrout in LA
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:52 pm to hall59tiger
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I’m all for some type of restrictions
Why?
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:54 pm to nated14
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Pogie boats need restrictions as well though
Follow the AIS to see if they're following the however many miles out rule
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:14 pm to maisweh
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I’m all for some type of restrictions Why?
The idea behind 13.5 is you significantly increase the spawning biomass because most trout are smaller. That and you give all trout the chance to spawn 1x and many of them the chance to spawn twice.
There is no rational way to argue that this won’t have a net positive (more fish, more fish contributing to the spawn) for the fishery. You can say that you don’t like more governmental rules and I would agree with you there, but you can’t say this is going to hurt the fishery. Whine all you want but it doesn’t make it true.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:17 pm to maisweh
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We've had no trouble catching trout in Timbilair
I've fished Timbalier for 3 decades and the fishery is nothing like it was 10 years ago it has been in decline numbers wise and size wise.
I can't say what for sure is changing it, but a catch decrease and size increase will help all fisheries. Now if they can just do something about the pogie boats leaving trails of death in their wake, we should get some positive results.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:22 pm to hall59tiger
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There is no rational way to argue that this won’t have a net positive (more fish, more fish contributing to the spawn) for the fishery.
Except that fact that the fishery can only support a finite amount of fish. What happens when you have a larger population competing for a shrinking amount of forage?
Most of y’all know about 1/2 of what you think you do.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:25 pm to Scrowe
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I've fished Timbalier for 3 decades and the fishery is nothing like it was 10 years ago it has been in decline numbers wise and size wise.
You evidently didn’t fish this summer or have no idea on where to go.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:29 pm to Scrowe
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I've fished Timbalier for 3 decades and the fishery is nothing like it was 10 years ago it has been in decline numbers wise and size wise.
I live here. You don't know where or how to fish.
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:30 pm to hall59tiger
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The idea behind 13.5 is you significantly increase the spawning biomass because most trout are smaller. That and you give all trout the chance to spawn 1x and many of them the chance to spawn twice.
There is no rational way to argue that this won’t have a net positive (more fish, more fish contributing to the spawn) for the fishery. You can say that you don’t like more governmental rules and I would agree with you there, but you can’t say this is going to hurt the fishery. Whine all you want but it doesn’t make it true.
Go see big lake and how much it didn't help them. Ask the guides.
Posted on 10/8/22 at 12:17 am to maisweh
Mississippi science has always supported the 14 inch size limit. the bullshite now was a result of a change to 13 inches to appease a freaking state Senator whose grandkids could only catch 13 inch trout off his freaking pier.
At 14 inches you pretty much have 100% spr. You are really close at 13.5 too. I honestly think you will find over time you will get as much meat off 15 trout that are going to average 1.5 as u will 25 that average a pound
At 14 inches you pretty much have 100% spr. You are really close at 13.5 too. I honestly think you will find over time you will get as much meat off 15 trout that are going to average 1.5 as u will 25 that average a pound
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