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re: I'm currently reading about the Lewis and Clarke expedition (archery related)
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:11 am to celltech1981
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:11 am to celltech1981
What's the name of this book? I'm interested
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:14 am to Bama and Beer
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:37 am to auggie
A pretty cool thing they did was make lead canisters for their gunpowder. The canister was sized so that when melted down it would mold the right amount of bullets for the amount of gunpowder inside. They also had some pretty powerful airguns.
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1500 pumps, jeebus. When I was a kid I got fed up with pumping my crosman 10 times so I spent my savings on a break barrel
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The rifle could put a hole through a one-inch pine board at 100 yards. The tubular magazine held twenty-two .46 round balls and the detachable cast-iron buttstock held 800 lbs. psi air of compressed air. It required 1500 strokes of a pump to bring to full charge after which it could quietly and without smoke, fire forty times before losing noticeable air pressure. And it was fairly easy to operate. One can imagine the impression it made. Arguably, this rifle may have been the most important weapon in the opening of the West.
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1500 pumps, jeebus. When I was a kid I got fed up with pumping my crosman 10 times so I spent my savings on a break barrel
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 9:40 am
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:45 am to auggie
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I need to read that book. You know that was a heck of an adventure.
It's a real good book as are all of Ambrose's books. His books on WWII are great. One of the best history writers ever.
He's the reason the WWII museum is in New Orleans.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/11/18 at 9:56 am to LSUfan20005
IMO undaunted courage is one of the best books I have ever read. I would highly recommend it to any outdoorsman.
Amazing how their favorite thing to hunt were grizzly bears as they would attack them and it was a real challenge to kill one.
The description of the abundance of wildlife and some of the sights seen in our great country before most white men had ever seen it. Their actual journals are very interesting as well.
Amazing how their favorite thing to hunt were grizzly bears as they would attack them and it was a real challenge to kill one.
The description of the abundance of wildlife and some of the sights seen in our great country before most white men had ever seen it. Their actual journals are very interesting as well.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:13 am to tenfoe
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Buffalo were dumb. Most of the shots were probably at 5 feet from a horse.
My great grandfather on my mother's side was a buffalo.
meet at Sonic, bitch
Posted on 7/11/18 at 11:34 am to celltech1981
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Compound bow hunters need to quit giving crossbow hunters shite
Can't make me
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:01 pm to celltech1981
In his book "Hunting with the Bow and Arrow", Saxton Pope documented several different bows of the time and their draw weights. A handful of them had draw weights much higher than what most people shoot today.
I think it would be one incredible feat to have a complete pass through on a buffalo, but not something that would be at all impossible. Native hunters were amazing with archery equipment. George Perkins Marsh includes a footnote in "Man and Nature" about a native tribe in South America that would shoot their arrows into the air with an arch that would have the arrow hit a turtle on it's shell in a way that would pierce the shell.
Maybe it's all lies, maybe not
I think it would be one incredible feat to have a complete pass through on a buffalo, but not something that would be at all impossible. Native hunters were amazing with archery equipment. George Perkins Marsh includes a footnote in "Man and Nature" about a native tribe in South America that would shoot their arrows into the air with an arch that would have the arrow hit a turtle on it's shell in a way that would pierce the shell.
Maybe it's all lies, maybe not
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:20 pm to celltech1981
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Compound bow hunters need to quit giving crossbow hunters shite
Why?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:20 pm to Chuker
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My great grandfather on my mother's side was a buffalo.
meet at Sonic, bitch
When are the $0.25 corndogs?
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:36 pm to celltech1981
Based on similar accounts I’ve read from around that time period that’s probably an embellishment. I think they felt like they had to deliver an over the top story to whoever thier benefactors paying for the expeditions where, or make sure they sell their memoirs. I’ve read some of Audubon's journals from his field exploration and they are doozys.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:39 pm to knuckleballer
they were hunters
of course they embellished
of course they embellished
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:39 pm to knuckleballer
PS. Now that I’m thinking about it, I’ve also seen a buffalo taken from a cross bow at 10 yards (buffalo are dumb) heart shot and it didn’t come close to passing thru. Prob 1/2 in max and those are short arrows. We trailed that thing about a mile.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:49 pm to speckledawg
I love when people talk chit about poor shot placement.
Like you can tell where the animals ribs are at the time the arrow gets there to the lungs.
One arrow hits this side rib travels 6" into animal. Same arrow misses near-side rib but hits far side rib and gets 12-14" penetration. Third arrow, same weight as first two, misses both sides of ribcage, passes through, ends up 20 yards past far side of animal.All three take out lung/lungs.
All arrows weigh the same, shot from same bow.
So your going to tell me the first two were bad shot placement but the third was good?
Those arrows could hit within 1" of each other and have those results...
Like you can tell where the animals ribs are at the time the arrow gets there to the lungs.
One arrow hits this side rib travels 6" into animal. Same arrow misses near-side rib but hits far side rib and gets 12-14" penetration. Third arrow, same weight as first two, misses both sides of ribcage, passes through, ends up 20 yards past far side of animal.All three take out lung/lungs.
All arrows weigh the same, shot from same bow.
So your going to tell me the first two were bad shot placement but the third was good?
Those arrows could hit within 1" of each other and have those results...
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:51 pm to celltech1981
quote:bullshite.
Compound bow hunters need to quit giving crossbow hunters shite and vice versa because we are all a bunch of pansies in comparison.
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:51 pm to AlxTgr
real talk. a bunch of bowhunters are just salty that there are more people in the woods
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:57 pm to celltech1981
quote:What?
that there are more people in the woods
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:08 pm to AlxTgr
when crossbows were legalized it gave a lot of folks an easy opportunity to get in the woods during archery season. a lot of folks who would normally wait until gun season are in the woods during archery only
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:10 pm to celltech1981
quote:That's a choice those people made. Nice choice of words there
when crossbows were legalized it gave a lot of folks an easy opportunity to get in the woods during archery season. a lot of folks who would normally wait until gun season are in the woods during archery only
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:19 pm to AlxTgr
I'm pretty much blind so I switched to crossbow this year after 15 years of bow hunting. The only thing different is not having to stand up. I still practice quite a bit. I wasn't able to shoot accurately. I tried different glasses and then a lens in the peep and then without the peep. I can't see the deer if I focus on the sight and vice versa
With hunter numbers declining I'm glad a lot of folks are able to get in to it.
With hunter numbers declining I'm glad a lot of folks are able to get in to it.
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