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I need an effective dog shock collar. Recommendations?

Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:12 pm
Posted by sc2anni
at my desk
Member since Feb 2023
619 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 9:12 pm
Young dog, figures she does not want to come in when I want her to. Loves staying out in the dark exploring the fenced in yard when I have already taken my pills so can't go chasing her down. Basically saying FU to me.

In the daytime she is pretty good.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
5243 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 11:55 pm to
I’ve had great luck training dogs to come,get in their pen/ kennel by giving them a treat.Pig skins worked best,they love them and not many calories.
They don’t care if they’re stale.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5378 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 12:22 am to
Sport dog are really solid but pricey. I got the highest rated one on chewy (I’m not field training a dog, just need to get his attention when his lab brain wonders) and it’s plenty for my needs and was like 40 bucks instead of 150.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7805 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:50 am to
E-Collar Baw
Dog weight?
Even the cheap ones will work for your situation, should have instructions, follow them & be judicious with application.
Collar needs to be snug on the neck.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 7:27 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29154 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:56 am to
I've been very happy with the Educator but I think it's $200-ish. If you're someone who always owns a dog or two it's worth it. There's a Tom Davis dog trainer on YT that endorses a collar brand, I've watched enough of his content to say that's probably a safe bet as well.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8611 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:14 am to
I bought a cheap $40 one for our hardheaded doodle off Amazon, as I didn't intend it to be a long term thing she was always wearing and it worked just fine. Similar like you she listened for the most part but when she got off a distance no amount of treats would entice her to come back. Started it on the pretty low setting, then quickly transitioned to the vibrate setting. Now she hardly wears it, I'll put it on her when we're going out in social settings or unfamiliar areas but rarely have to use it.
Posted by Tigah D
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
1515 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:38 am to
SportDog been great to me for many years, very durable.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5926 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:19 am to
E-collar training a dog isn't just slapping a collar on the dog and shocking it. The dog has to understand what it's getting corrected for. Use the collar to reinforce a command - not teach it.

Your budget really dictates the collar. I used SportDog for years but the new SportDogs are garbage. Super inconsistent and the remotes fail a lot. Their launcher/winger equipment is the same. I would look at Garmin or Dogtra. If you're not concerned with consistency/on a budget, just go get a cheap SportDog from Tractor Supply.
Posted by Alika_kahuna
Member since May 2021
297 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:44 am to
I have a young pup. I think she's part hound and very stubborn but this collar works really well. I've only ever used beep and vibrate but she listens it it very well.

Amazon LINK
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5378 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:54 am to
That’s the same one I got that was top rated on Chewy.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5378 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 9:56 am to
quote:

E-collar training a dog isn't just slapping a collar on the dog and shocking it. The dog has to understand what it's getting corrected for. Use the collar to reinforce a command - not teach it.


So if dog normally knows recall command and obeys it as OP described, but struggles at night and and in stimulating environment with that command, then e-collar is used to get their attention, right?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5926 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 10:41 am to
Definitely. I was a little unclear on OP, but if the dog knows "here," "come," or whatever the recall command is and disobeys for whatever reason, then the e-collar is used to reinforce that command.

Collar conditioning is the process of introducing the dog to the stimulation to teach them that the stimulation is a correction. Believe it or not, some dogs just don't get that right out of the gate. They get shocked and they freak out/get confused/don't understand. Disclaimer: this is somewhat nuanced dog training and may be more than OP is interested in getting into. Not saying OP absolutely has to go this route, but it is the best way to train the dog to understand the collar.

An easy way to do it is to take a command the dog knows well, like "sit." At the lowest level the dog can feel (can be determined by watching for any reaction, like an eye, ear, or slight flinch), apply continuous stimulation and give the sit command simultaneously. The second the dog's butt hits the ground, stop stimulation, praise and reward. Do this once a day for a few days with 10-15 reps per session, but don't apply stimulation every single time. Maybe every other time. It's a baseline way to (1) teach a dog to be comfortable with pressure and (2) teach the dog how to turn off pressure, which is ultimately the goal of using an e-collar. Once the dog gets comfortable with the collar on sit, expand to other commands like recall, and switch from continuous stimulation to momentary (a nick). At that point, the process becomes "sit," and if the dog hesitates at all, it gets nicked and the command reinforced. Same with here, down, heel, etc.

Conditioning also a good way to determine the dog's working level of stimulation. Some dogs are much higher than others. My current dog operates on a low 2 on her collar, and if I hit her with a low 3, she yips. This is also the importance of getting a good, consistent collar. You want a 2 to be a 2 every time you hit the button. SportDog has had issues recently with inconsistent stimulation.
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 10:43 am
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7805 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 11:46 am to
A+ BM on your explanation!
Sport Dog came out in 2005 and were junk then (client fell for the fancy sticker) and the first two shite da bed in short order. Maybe they have improved since then.
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
5555 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 1:47 pm to
I tried a cheap one from Amazon and wasn't happy with it. Finally gave in to spend the extra on SportDog and it's been amazing. "pricey but worth it" fits the bill exactly
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2789 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 8:56 pm to
Garmin pro 550
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5926 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 7:33 am to
I went through 3 remotes on my last SportDog and had to purchase the last two. Their customer service is terrible. Most of my pro trainer buddies have been switching over to Dogtra or Garmin. I've had the 550 pro for current pup for 3 years now and had no issues so far. Also like that it can switch from the tube remote for training to the sport remote for hunting.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 7:33 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
15354 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 3:18 pm to
I used a sport dog on my lab, about 10 years ago so whatever model was available at the time. She never responded to it. It would knock the shite out of me....I tested it several times thinking it wasn't working. She never paid it a minutes attention beyond a noticeable lifting of the ears occasionally. I gave it up. This was one of the most willful labs I ever worked with...still is. She has some curl in her coat along her back which makes me thing she may have some chessie in her lineage somewhere....not enough to require a 2X4 in the training kit like a chessie but damn near it....
Posted by OntarioTiger
Canada
Member since Nov 2007
2284 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 12:38 pm to
Garmin for me, my current one is 9+ yrs old no issues. It also has a built-in light so maybe useful for you to find dog in dark. I use that feature when setting up decoys in dark and black lab is running around
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7805 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 1:10 pm to
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She never responded to it

You know aren’t using it correctly if so. Collar Condition correctly and No dog will beat it. Got to be smarter than the dog Baw.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5926 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Garmin for me, my current one is 9+ yrs old no issues. It also has a built-in light so maybe useful for you to find dog in dark. I use that feature when setting up decoys in dark and black lab is running around


The light on the Garmin collar has been extremely useful for me too. I didn't expect to use it as much as I do. Great for letting the dog be a dog while I'm setting up in the dark.
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