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How much to fill in an acre with dirt?

Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:21 pm
I'm looking at a 10 acre tract of land that someone sold the dirt from, so now its basically a crappy pond/ swap land. Given I can get the permits to do so, what would be the ballpark to fill in one acre with fill dirt? I'm assuming this is possible?

I'm not entirely sure how deep it is, so would it be possible to take some dirt from the swamp and make some of it buildable?

Obviously I really don't know anything about this. Its just a great location for dirt cheap...I may consider buying it for just the swamp/ pond.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:24 pm to
Theres no way to give you a ball park... is it dug out 2', 5', etc. Escpecially over 10 acres even 6" of fill is fairly pricy.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14030 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:28 pm to
Are you talking about wetlands? If so this is a lot tougher to do than it seems you think it is. If it is wetlands you have to deal with the Army Corps of Engineers and it not easy at all to get done. Not because its hard to fill in a pond. Its because the Army Corp doesn't like to let people destroy wetlands these days.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Its because the Army Corp doesn't like to let people destroy wetlands these days.


It was regular land someone took the dirt and sold, so now its wetlands basically. It looks 1-2 feet deep of water, there's a bunch of plants and trees in it so I don't think its much deeper than that. Basically looks flooded.

I was just curious if say I had 10 acres of "swamp" that's 1-2 feet under water, how much it would be to have someone take dirt from 3-4 acres and fill in 1 acre to be build able? I realize its not cheap, but this land is super cheap compared to what is around it.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7368 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

great location for dirt cheap


Doesn't sound like it.

Sounds like you would be in over your head. Find a better spot.

Plus, do you really want to be in the middle of 9 acres of "crappie pond/swamp land"?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:36 pm to
Your best bet would probably be to dig out out and make an actual pond.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5906 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:38 pm to
In what state are you talking about? You can rent an excavator and dig a deeper pond, then rent a dozer or front end loader and move it yourself.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4652 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:38 pm to
Filling one acre with 12" of dirt = 1613 cubic yards of dirt.

A dump truck holds 10-14 cubic yards. So 115 or more dump trucks can add a foot of dirt to one acre if my math is right. Probably around $100 or a little less per load of dirt. Probably looking at $10,000 or more unless my math is waaaaay off.

Definitely more efficient to just have somebody with a dozer push a bunch of dirt from the rest of the acreage over to the acre you want to build up, and/or dig a pond in the process and drain the acreage you want to keep dry into the pond.

This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38734 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

do you really want to be in the middle of 9 acres of "crappie pond


Oh sure yeah ya betcha.

Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7368 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:49 pm to
Godamnit.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20442 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

In what state are you talking about? You can rent an excavator and dig a deeper pond, then rent a dozer or front end loader and move it yourself.


This is more what I was thinking, how much would it be to pay someone to do this? I have no idea.

The land is pretty valuable, $100k or so an acre. Probably more in the future. I am looking at the 10 acres for $2-3k an acre. So if I can fill in 1-2 acres for $10-20k, maybe even twice that? I would then have a little bit of land with a pond.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:58 pm to
That's going to be a lot of dirt. You're talking 10s of thousands with labor and equipment and all.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:13 pm to
I would ponder the thought that the previous owner was aware the value of the dirt was more than the value of the land and go from there, seriously.

Buy it and shove up a mound if you wish but hauling dirt back in is a fools errand.

Also just a fyi, the percentage of land in the USA that will bring 100 grand an acre is so small it is statistically insignificant, you may want to dig a little deeper. (Pun intended)
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3860 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:13 pm to
Ha
If its "worth" 100 gs an acre
Why are they selling it to you for $2000 an acre ??
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1317 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:14 pm to
To calculate the volume of dirt you have to know the length, width and height, without one of the components it is impossible to figure.

Another factor to consider is truck volume vs. in place volume, which can be 15-30% difference. In other works 100 cubic yards in a truck will only fill in a 70-85 cubic yard hole if properly compacted.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

The land is pretty valuable, $100k or so an acre. Probably more in the future.


How? This all doesn't make sense, at least to me.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42560 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:20 pm to
To do this right? You will need to muck out the unsuitable material, dewater, then replace the soil in 8" lifts, and compact as you come up. If you don't, any structure you build will have serious settlement issues.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10700 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:34 pm to
Footage in Width x length x depth / 27 = cubic yards
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 5:34 pm to
Also need to account for the fact that you pay for 14 loose yards but really only get 12 loose yards.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6846 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 5:37 pm to
This is seriously the kind of thread I’d expect from a 16 yr old white subdivision girl.
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