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Hog hunting gone wrong
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:57 pm
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 8:59 pm to choupiquesushi
How is that negligent homicide? Seems like a crazy accident
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:00 pm to Quatre Pot
We can disagree on that
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:02 pm to choupiquesushi
Why do you disagree? Without being so vague
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:15 pm to crankbait
If he shot not knowing his target - negligent
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:16 pm to choupiquesushi
Know your target and what’s beyond it.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:20 pm to Quatre Pot
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How is that negligent homicide?
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According to sheriff’s detectives, Jones knew his friend was not wearing “hunter’s orange,” which is the type of clothing typically used by hunters to prevent such accidents. Also, authorities said Jones told investigators he did not know his friend’s location when he fired toward a hog
I know when I hunt with people we specifically talk about our positions.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:26 pm to LSUintheNW
This is a classic case of he talked himself into a charge. If he wouldn’t have told authorizes he didn’t know his friends location then it would be next to impossible to convict. He could be charged I suppose but that statement will be the nail in his coffin. His friend not wearing orange is on his friend, not him. Firing while not knowing where your partner is is possibly enough for negligence. Still negligent homicide requires gross negligence, so he may still prevail if he goes to trial, but I’d expect he gets off light due to a weak case via plea deal.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:49 pm to TigernMS12
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. His friend not wearing orange is on his friend, not
Not required
Negligent homicide does not need gross negligence
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:50 pm to TigernMS12
The alternative is he knew his friends location and fired?
He was going to get charged with negligent homicide regardless if he made a statement or not.
He was going to get charged with negligent homicide regardless if he made a statement or not.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 9:53 pm to choupiquesushi
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Negligent homicide does not need gross negligence
Wrong.
§32. Negligent homicide
A. Negligent homicide is either of the following:
(1) The killing of a human being by criminal negligence.
Defined:
§12. Criminal negligence
Criminal negligence exists when, although neither specific nor general criminal intent is present, there is such disregard of the interest of others that the offender's conduct amounts to a gross deviation below the standard of care expected to be maintained by a reasonably careful man under like circumstances.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:08 pm to Bawcephus
Mistaking a human for a hog is gross in my book
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:31 pm to choupiquesushi
What is the topographical change on honey island? Enough for a 3 to 4 ft difference in point of aim? No grown man has a chest anywhere near the point of aim on a hog.
Sounds like this could be more than NH from an outside perspective.
Sounds like this could be more than NH from an outside perspective.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:43 pm to Bleeding purple
Thought that myself. Chest shot on an average adult? Was the guy crawling? Wearing all black? Terrible situation but just a lot of questions.
Posted on 11/10/18 at 10:45 pm to Quatre Pot
I think La tightened the law on hunting accidents (shootings)a few years back?
Posted on 11/10/18 at 11:34 pm to Bawcephus
The alternative is he thought his friend was somewhere that he wasn’t (as a fellow hunter I hope the assumption we all take when hunting together is we know where everyone is). You would never know that isn’t true had he not gave that statement. If he thought friend was somewhere else, and fired thinking that, then no gross negligence. I still don’t think it’s gross negligence unless alcohol or some other illegal drug was involved and as another poster stated a criminal act always requires at minimum gross negligence. I’m just saying, as a defense attorney (mainly), had he not made that statement he wouldn’t have been charged but firing after starring affirmatively that he didn’t know where he was opens him up to criminal liability possibly. I still think there is an argument to be made it’s not gross negligence but that’s for a jury to decide now.
With all that said he’s absolutely fricked on a wrongful death civil suit that requires only a showing of simple negligence.
With all that said he’s absolutely fricked on a wrongful death civil suit that requires only a showing of simple negligence.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:05 am to TigernMS12
The story sounds like BS.
And how do you shoot someone in the chest and not know what you’re liooking at.
If a shot gun, he did it on purpose. A rifle is more excusable as its travel distance is much further.
And how do you shoot someone in the chest and not know what you’re liooking at.
If a shot gun, he did it on purpose. A rifle is more excusable as its travel distance is much further.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:19 am to lsufan112001
I just assumed a rifle. Who hunts hogs with a shotgun (unless I missed something in the reports). Also, I just assumed two guys hunting together didn’t equate to one wanting to kill the other. Again, a lot of assumptions but just going off what’s been reported and giving my take on things from a legal perspective
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 1:20 am
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:01 am to Bawcephus
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The alternative is he knew his friends location and fired?
He was going to get charged with negligent homicide regardless if he made a statement or not.
The alternative is his friend told him he would be at x, but apparently he moved without signaling.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:38 am to choupiquesushi
I bet he shot at a moving bush and there was no hog anywhere around.
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