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Help me pick mine and the GF's new carry guns

Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted by BallCoachinFool
Member since Dec 2012
2133 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:55 pm
Pick 2 of the 3. Give me some details. Money ain't a thing. If two of the same is the best bet then so be it. But I enjoy variety.
1. Glock 42 .380
2. Kahr PM9
3. Beretta PX4 Storm

I was very excited about the glock for her but have read some awful reviews. Anyone have one?

The Kahr is something I am not familiar with so details on that would be great.

I have a Beretta 90-two but it's too big to carry. I love it and it's fun to shoot so that Is why I asked about the PX4.

Sorry no pics on the lady.

I appreciate any input.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61595 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 1:56 pm to
I vote none of those
Posted by BallCoachinFool
Member since Dec 2012
2133 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Posted by BallCoachinFool
Member since Dec 2012
2133 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:00 pm to
Then what do you suggest?
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Sorry no pics on the lady.


Sorry no help on the guns.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:04 pm to
Those are awful options, I'll say two Kahrs if I had to pick from that list.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66417 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

I vote none of those


quote:

if I had to pick from that list



quote:

two Kahrs
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166247 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:13 pm to
what she working with in the small of her back? She got some concealing booty going on?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13571 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 2:26 pm to
Single Stacks-
Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9
Springfield Amory XDS 9
Sig Sauer p938

Double Stacks-
Springfield Armory XD 9 Subcompact
Ruger SR9C
Beretta 92FS Inox Compact
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11889 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Give me some details


quote:

1. Glock 42 .380


In my humble opinion, this one is too big dimensionally for a 380. You can get an equally powerful 380 (same length barrel) in pocket-sized form. The only upside to a larger 380 is less felt recoil. So if you have wrist issues or your wife is extremely recoil sensitive (something that training can fix) it would be an okay choice.

quote:

2. Kahr PM9


I essentially have this gun in the Kahr CM9. It is dimensionally identical to my PM9 with only a few different details. It has been a great firearm for me (3000+ rounds) and is with me quite often. The upside to this gun is that it's a single stack pistol and probably the smallest reliable 9mm on the market. The downside is that with a single stack gun you get less ammo capacity. But with this reduced capacity you get thinness, which equals comfort.

That's all concealed carry is - a balancing act between capacity and comfort.

quote:

3. Beretta PX4 Storm



If you're talking about a full sized gun, I would not get this for carry. The fact that it's a full sized gun is a downside, plus it has a slide-mounted safety which comes with its own quirks.

Ultimately the decision is up to you. Only you can hold each one and feel which is right. You also left a lot of good options off your list (Shield, XDs9, etc.). So asking for a suggestion is good, but buying it is another thing.

Also, let your wife pick HER OWN gun. She will be more likely to actually use it if she selects it. If she has not fired a lot of handguns before, start her on a full sized 9mm or 22 to learn how to handle recoil and muzzle blast. Tiny guns are NOT fun to shoot. They serve a specific purpose - portability.

This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30229 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:06 pm to
I say replace the PM9 with two CM9s.

LINK

Money is not a thing for you, but a sexy Concealed gun is well....concealed. A pm9 is almost $300 more for nicer slide machining, polygonal barrel and an extra mag.

I'm not a fan of G42 since it is .380. If I had to take .380, it would be the smallest i could find....maybe a Ruger LCP.



If money ain't a thing, as you say.....maybe you could put a Kimber Solo in that mix. It's only an ounce heavier than a PM9.








Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:23 pm to
A. Scratch .380's from your list. No matter what else you read or hear, the 9mm is not just a little better, it's a lot better (more effective) at stopping bad guys.

B. There are a lot of good reasons to get both guns with the same operating controls/manual of arms. Mixing guns with manual safety (like the Beretta) with guns having no external safety isn't a great idea.

C. Scratch guns with manual (external) safeties from your list -- unless she tends to fiddle around with guns. If that's the case, scratch her from the list until she gets a lesson in gun safety and some experience.

D. Not sure how you formulated your list. But RELIABILITY should be your primary (and secondary, and tertiary) concern. For out-of-the-box reliability you should focus on Glocks, M&P's and H-K's. Kahrs are fine guns, but require several hundred rounds through them for break-in (according to the owner's manual).

E. Do not base your choice on reviews in gun magazines, reviews on youtube (probably the worst option of all), and opinions expressed on this or any other internet forum. Go find out out what law enforcement agencies issue -- this is usually your best clue as to reliability.

F. After you narrow your list to three or four makes of reliable guns, you can pick based on your personal preferences, or can just go "eeny, meeny, miney, mo."

G. My comments qualify as free internet advice, so you can ignore it as well.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:25 pm to
If either of you has to use one of your guns do you have the name and number of an attorney you can call right then? Day or night?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

2. Kahr PM9



quote:

3. Beretta PX4 Storm

Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:53 pm to
We need a picture of her backside to make a determination
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61595 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Scratch guns with manual (external) safeties from your list


Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Help me pick mine and the GF's new carry guns


quote:

Also, let your GF pick HER OWN gun


Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:05 pm to
chick - a small hammerless revolver, if it's in her purse there's no reason to worry about a misfire because the slide catches, etc.

dude - hard not to recommend a 3" kimber .45 - they're so slim, lightweight...but the price may be a huge turnoff.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11889 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Also, let your GF pick HER OWN gun


Woops.

quote:

chick - a small hammerless revolver, if it's in her purse there's no reason to worry about a misfire because the slide catches, etc.


A lot of people default to revolvers for women. While you have a good point about the functionality of a revolver, they fall short in a couple of areas:

1. Capacity
2. Trigger pull
3. Sights
4. Recoil (bore axis is much higher than a semi auto)

quote:

dude - hard not to recommend a 3" kimber .45 - they're so slim, lightweight...but the price may be a huge turnoff.



45s also give you a very low capacity in a compact gun. But that's up to the user. For the most part, 9, 40, and 45 all do the same thing so it's up to the user.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

a small hammerless revolver, if it's in her purse there's no reason to worry about a misfire because the slide catches, etc.


I hate those lady smiths or w/e they are called. Every woman I know hates shooting it.
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