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Have a question about newly cleared land

Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:02 am
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:02 am
I’ve had a field cleared with a forestry mulcher and wanted to see what y’all think is the next best step.

I will say that there are several ruts in the field from where tree cutting machinery used the field to load wood when the field next to it was clear cut before I bought it.
The ground currently is completely covered with pine straw and sweet gum tree trunks that are 1-2” in diameter.
I have a tractor with a bucket, disk and a land plane with scarifiers. And a mini excavator with several attachments.
The ruts are not terrible and would be easy to run the disk over them to help smooth them but I’m not 100% sure with all the wood on the ground.
I was thinking bout getting the ruts smoothed and then disk it all.

Will the wood on the ground and remaining small stumps be much of an issue you think?



Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
42500 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:05 am to
If you’ve got the gas money, whether you do it right or not, you’re going to likely have some fun. Remember that.

After a hard day, I like to bush hog and fight all the noise with noise.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:06 am to
Forgot to add, I’d love to cut fire lanes and burn it but have a burn ban in place right now, so that’s out.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13969 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:31 am to
What are you wanting to use this land for? If for hunting/wildlife I would let it be for the most part.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:33 am to
The plan is to plant it for a dove field in the summer and will have plant some with food plot seeds in the fall (not alll of it mind you).

Leaving it is not an option. It was so thick, a persons could not even think about walking through it.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 9:36 am
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
5272 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:06 am to
How big is the field.?

I had a 5 acre field I had mulched,about a million sweetgums came up.What I’m did is bushhog a opening in the middle ,about an acre and then several lanes from the edges coming into the middle,from W,N& E sides.
Stand is on S side.

In my experience disking with dead saplings on the ground doesn’t go very well.
My plan was to rake the ground with a box blade with the scarifiers dropped
down to break up the soil a little to plant seeds but it’s been so dry I didn’t bother,
Maybe next year.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 11:12 am
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1946 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:33 am to
We had a few acres cleared recently and I used a 3pt 8’ chain harrow on the tractor to rake up a bunch of pine tree roots and brush. It did a good job but as more roots start to decay it’ll be easier. We didn’t have it mulched though. I’d imagine a chain harrow or rake would clean that up. I wouldn’t disc all that bark into the soil. I’d think that would plummet the pH of it. Someone with more knowledge may know more than me though.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

How big is the field.?


The field is 20 acres but only 7-8 acres cleared so far.

I’m working on some of the ruts today with the excavator
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
21750 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:50 pm to
I would run a disc over it really good. Then let it be for aboout two years then start a yearly burning rotation. Unless your want to use it for somehthing specific. In that case go through it with a root rake and some more pushing the big stuff into piles.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3476 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:52 pm to
Every stump in the ground that can re sprout is going to in the spring. You need to figure out to mitigate for that because nature is going to nature.

Smoke it with imazapyr and glyphosate in the spring as soon as it starts to green back up. After one summer of hot temps those stumps will be crusty and broken down a lot more and much easier to disk up/ work the soil.

Unless you have a heavy duty (and heavy) site prep type disk, disking up green stumpage and fresh mulch is going to be hell and prepare yourself for something to break more than once.

In my experienced opinion, mulching is not always the best way to clear land if your goal is to put a plow/harrow in the ground asap. It's great for a year out after you can treat stump regrowth and have them sit and dry out for a summer, or if you're converting it to pasture land, but not so great for immediate tillage with standard equipment found on most recreational properties. It's better to have the slash bulldozed and windrowed/buried and have a clean slate. Of course that has its own down side because of topsoil removal and bare earth in hilly terrain.

Every property that is able should keep a good fire lane around the property. Once you kill the re growth of woody plants you can put the land on burn cycles and watch the flora and fauna flourish from the native habitat.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:03 pm to
I do have a 300 g 3 pt sprayer that I plan to spray everything with in the spring.
Also, my disk is quite heavy. The disk themselves are around 1/2” thick and the disk is probably 2000-2500 lbs. May not be quite that heavy but it is very stout and 7ft wide.

You’ve pretty much confirmed my thoughts that this would not be ready next year. I didn’t think it would be just hopeful imagination.

I’ve spent my time this morning building burn piles of the downed trees.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13969 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Leaving it is not an option. It was so thick, a persons could not even think about walking through it.


Personally, I would draw out a masterplan making sure I had ways to approach a couple areas regardless of the wind direction, I would leave a large section undisturbed, and yes, it will be so thick you can't walk through it. The deer will get far more from browsing these areas than they will from the food plots. More importantly, these thick areas are what will keep bucks on your property instead of your neighbors. When the trees start to grow/thin out I would even go back in and hinge cut several areas to increase the amount of browse.

Do you have a water source on the property?

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

The deer will get far more from browsing these areas than they will from the food plots. More importantly, these thick areas are what will keep bucks on your property instead of your neighbors. When the trees start to grow/thin out I would even go back in and hinge cut several areas to increase the amount of browse.


The entire bottom that I own is 40 acres. I plan on having 15 of it cleared the remaining 25 will be heavy thick stuff. I’ve got plenty of bedding areas.

I do have a water source. There is a 10 acre lake on the property.

Also the sweetgums that you see in the pic I’ve been cutting them down and spraying t the stump with crossbow.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
1885 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:07 pm to
Goats on ropes
Posted by TyOconner
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
11416 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:46 pm to
You have two options here, a quick and more expensive field or a cheap field that gets right in three or so years.

For the quick option you’ll need to pile/burn, root rake, test/treat the soil, and then disc and plant what you want.

For the cheap option you don’t touch it at all, and then burn each winter until the field establishes on its own. The roots in the ground and everything else will slowly burn off each year. Once the field is cuttable grass then you can disc and plant.

No matter which way you do it, you will eventually wind up with the same outcome.
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 6:40 am
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
4117 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:15 pm to
Dozer and root rake.....bury what you rake up
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24764 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 6:46 am to
Do you really want all those trees? Consider that also, I’m assuming you left them for a reason. But it’s a hell of a lot easier to deal with small trees than to deal with those small trees in 5 years and 10 years
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5725 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:03 am to
Some of those trees look like sweet gum?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
29258 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:32 am to
quote:

Do you really want all those trees? Consider that also, I’m assuming you left them for a reason. But it’s a hell of a lot easier to deal with small trees than to deal with those small trees in 5 years and 10 years


I’ve been cutting them down and spraying the stump with crossbow. I cut most everything in the first 50-100 yds y-day.

quote:

Some of those trees look like sweet gum?


There are a few pines and oak and everything else are sweet gums.
Posted by TyOconner
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
11416 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:53 am to
Our rule of thumb is to kill every gum tree we can without exception. Zero wildlife benefit and will spread invasively.
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