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re: Gating canals in houma area

Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:15 pm to
Insurance is a 22 bullet. Duck!
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:33 pm to
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Posted by cajunboatman
BR
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 7:32 pm to
Really?
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 7:49 pm to
Lost for words on this topic... I do not carry bolt cutters. I do not vandalize.. I just hate being a responsible bass fisherman who is losing places to fish. I do not cross posted signs or gates... Also I don't carry a gun so when I see the thread getting violent I just want people to know I am a peaceful bass fisherman that is upset
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 7:51 pm
Posted by cajunboatman
BR
Member since Dec 2012
162 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:06 pm to
I'm w/ you brother. Lots more feel the same way for sure.
Intimidating responses not gonna fly w/ us. No way no how!
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 8:35 pm to
I am with you 100%.. The laws in Louisiana need to be discussed.. Fisherman need to be respectful, but demand the conversation to take place.. We need to look at laws other states have and have a healthy debate. Conservation, navigable waterways and other issues need to addressed
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:02 pm to
Arky friend of mine told me that the big navagable rivers up there have public access every so many miles as required by law.
Now thats a user friendly state.
Louisiana has always been bought and sold by big business and Big land owners.
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:08 pm to
Great point.. Talk to anyone from another state about this topic
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:09 pm to
For some reason I don't see the Harry Bourg Corp agreeing to removing their gates.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:54 pm to
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Arky friend of mine told me that the big navagable rivers up there have public access every so many miles as required by law. 


Are these waterways owned by the state? The problem here is state owned river bottom versus private owned river bottom. It has nothing to do with the canal being navagable.

Don't know if all these other states have the same scenario where private land owners created the canals as we did.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:53 am to
Exactly. People keep citing other states laws. No one has the oilfield in their wetlands the way LA does. Those rivers are public waterways much like our main bayous which are public. If an Arkansas hunter owned a thousand acres of land and decided to dredge a canal from the river to the center of his property, im sure that canal doesn't suddenly become public. But they probably never have to deal with that since why would anyone do it.

It sucks. I fished a lot of private marsh (no no trespassing signs) and would hate to lose it all. But fact is, these are private.

Think of it as a road. Most roads are provided by the state or federal government. But you can connect a private road or driveway to that road and have it go on your private property. People don't have enough a right to your road just because it's connected to the state highway. Sucks if you've been using it with no problems then the owner suddenly puts up a gate. But it doesn't make it wrong for the owner to put up a gate. It's their right.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1639 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Exactly. People keep citing other states laws. No one has the oilfield in their wetlands the way LA does


While the sheer number of canals may be different, look no further than our neighbor to the East of the Pearl River. Whether it's 1 million or 1 thousand, the concept is the same, but you won't see posted signs on canals in Mississippi's tidelands.

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I fished a lot of private marsh (no no trespassing signs) and would hate to lose it all. But fact is, these are private


I guess that part of the point. Of the millions of acres of marsh that make Louisiana what it is, only a very small portion is in fact navigable by Louisiana law. The "fact" needs to be discussed and potentially altered, because as it reads today we are all trespassers when we leave a coastal marina by boat. That's a fact I don't like living with.
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:41 am to
Exactly..... Great post dock
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:56 am to
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People don't have enough a right to your road just because it's connected to the state highway


This doesn't fit because your private road does not cause the public road to become impassible. You are also not receiving tax payer support to help save your private road from the same fate as the public road you destroyed in the process. You know what else you didn't get? The bill from the state for the damage you caused.

A better analogy would be you connected a private road to a public road and then used pieces of the public road to pave the one you built.
Posted by LSUchuck
Member since Dec 2004
1546 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:02 am to
Bottomline is landowners just need to stop being assholes about this. If they start gating my spots off, I'm selling my boat. Think of the money the state would lose if this happens in sales tax via-licenses, tackle, bait, gas, etc. not to mention places that would go out of business.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:05 am to
quote:

If they start gating my spots off, I'm selling my boat. Think of the money the state would lose if this happens in sales tax via-licenses, tackle, bait, gas, etc. not to mention places that would go out of business.


I think you are overestimating your effect on the economy. I don't think enough people will sell off their boats and quit fishing to make a difference.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:05 am to
Not arguing the damage caused in some cases. But fight that fight. Don't take up the cause of "your canals messed up the main canal, now I get to use your property as if it were my own"


quote:

 Of the millions of acres of marsh that make Louisiana what it is, only a very small portion is in fact navigable by Louisiana law. The "fact" needs to be discussed and potentially altered, because as it reads today we are all trespassers when we leave a coastal marina by boat


So we should all be trespassers since Louisiana has so much to offer?? Because millions of acres exost, and it hasn't been gated before, you should have a right to it.??

And the not being able to navigate is false. You can go plenty of places...just not into the actual marsh in most places. Bayous, bays, lakes, etc. for the most part are still accessible.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 8:10 am
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:17 am to
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So we should all be trespassers since Louisiana has so much to offer?


We have all done it. You have trespassed. I've have. Everyone has. The only to not trespass is to never leave your private land. It's quite literally impossible.

Are we suggesting that there are different levels of trespassing? Not trying to nit pick but were do we draw the line?

What happens if Delacroix land decides to gate off bayou gentilly? Do we just shrug our shoulders and thank them for being so generous up until that point?
Posted by 1234567k
Baton rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:20 am to
lic. If an Arkansas hunter owned a thousand acres of land and decided to dredge a canal from the river to the center of his property, im sure that canal doesn't suddenly become public.

No. But it should
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:43 am to
In most situations in other states if you dredge a canal and connect your canal to public water then your canal is then public. If the canal is landlocked it is private.. This happened in Ohio.
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