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re: Gating canals in houma area

Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:05 pm to
Is this thread 20 pages of people bitching about people fishing in their leases?
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:24 pm to
Really!!! I have fished "private" canals my entire life. You can't even travel to "public water" without trespassing. I can't stand a thief, vandal, poacher etc. I do not own bolt cutters. But to see places that responsible outdoorsman have fished with their parents and grandparents and now can't take their children is just horrible. I took a trip to lake fork in 2010 with my dad and all I heard from our guide was he would never come back to Louisiana after being run out of a canal that had no gate or posted signs. Maybe the honest fisherman should do a better job of helping wildlife agents. I don't know the solution, I just think it's sad. I fish the lake verret area.. If all the canals like cracker head, the oxy fields become off limits like Curtis breaux has it would be really tragic
Posted by cajunboatman
BR
Member since Dec 2012
162 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:58 pm to
Someone with authority needs to make a statement on this. I've often heard that judges and DA's don't want anything to do with it regarding pressing charges. I mean really what kinda penalty is involved here by catching a fish or two on waters involved here. Has anyone ever gotten fined and had to come out of pocket?

Also how about some kinda statement on why the Curtis Breaux canal got gated off after all these years. If Troy Landry gated it off , why the heck doesn't he come out and say why he did it. Lots of his own fans / ex fans are wanting to know this answer.

Also the general,public , all us taxpayers and fishing license holders would like to be informed as to what the future holds for us. Someone who's already purchased a lifetime fishing license deserves an answer even more so. He's
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:09 pm to
I agree... I have talked to cops and game wardens and they don't want the private canal issue to come up. It's like I said in an earlier post... You have to trespass in bayou black. You can not get to public water without traveling through a private canal
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:18 pm to
That's false, you don't any way to bayou black without trespassing? Perhaps it's not the shortest route. But you gletter boat guys have no problem getting there from other launches besides Bobs.
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:23 pm to
I fish an old aluminum boat
Posted by cajunboatman
BR
Member since Dec 2012
162 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:38 pm to
Bassmaster's has an article on their website that mentions this issue. It pretty much sys it would be a hassle to bring an event here because of all the BS associated with fishing our beloved waters. Has some comments from the articles Andy Crawford did in Louisiana Sportsmans magazine.
Maybe now more people will be aware of this issue..
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:02 pm to
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Has anyone ever gotten fined and had to come out of pocket?


I got a ticket a while back, but nothing ever became of it for a myriad of different reasons. I like to run my mouth a little bit about ignoring a lot of posted signs, and that's not a lie but this ticket was more of a show of power than it was a criminal complaint. I was not trespassing. The reality of the situation is it's nearly impossible to prove on way or the other. Nobody really knows for sure what is public and what is private. We have a pretty good idea of what would be private based on the way the lots were divided, but the waterways that run through them may not necessarily be private. It's possible for a water way to shift from the public trust to private control, and ice versa. Not to mention bayous, creeks, canals and what have you that once served as boundaries or property markers have shifted and around and moved so much over the better part of 200 years that the lines become blurred. It's entirely possible to be trespassing by simply being to close to one side or the other of a historically navigable canal.

Despite all the bullshite, I'm on the land owners side for the most part. My beef stems from earlier generations raping our marsh and leaving this vanishing resource in their wake. What we have is private, and rightfully so, canals being gated off and people being pissed off for the wrong reason. The gate isn't the problem, it's never been the problem. The canal is the problem. Once navigable waterways have been altered to the point they are no longer usable in a lot of places and the only remaining safe passage is through these oil and gas canals.

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Also the general,public , all us taxpayers and fishing license holders would like to be informed as to what the future holds for us. Someone who's already purchased a lifetime fishing license deserves an answer even more


I don't like to be discouraging, especially when it comes to enjoying one of the greatest and unique natural resources in North America. The sad reality is you will never get any straight answer from any local or state government. Nobody will give you a map, at least not willingly. Nobody in any authoritative position will say one way or the other what areas you can and can not access freely. Nobody can show you what is public outside of WMA's. The eastern side of lake Tambour is private, would you like to take a stab at where in that wide open body of water there is a property line?

It's a real problem that will continue to grow unless people become more vocal. CCA isn't doing anyone any favors and they are our biggest lobby when it comes to the marsh. They want nothing to do with the problem. As long as we have people like those turds who cut off public access fouchon beach with zero repercussion, our shallow water marsh fishing will be chipped away until it's confined to land leased or owned by the state. This assuming someone like Biloxi Marsh Co or Delacroix land continues to allow access out of the kindness of their own hearts.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Bassmaster's has an article on their website that mentions this issue. It pretty much sys it would be a hassle to bring an event here because of all the BS associated with fishing our beloved waters. Has some comments from the articles Andy Crawford did in Louisiana Sportsmans magazine


A few years ago some crotchy old man shot a shotgun across the bow of a bass boat. The man, despite multiple witneses, was never prosecuted. Funny thing is, he's got a reputation for doing that very same thing. If I were bassmasters I would have pulled out of Louisiana completely.

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Follow up article on the charges being dropped.

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[quote}Maybe now more people will be aware of this issue..[/quote]

People are very aware and have been for last 25 or 30 years. What you need is the right people to be aware. Until that happens, nothing will change
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:10 am to
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I have talked to cops and game wardens and they don't want the private canal issue to come up.


May be true for the marsh, but in other parts of the state they are eager and willing to help run people off and write fines.

I will say the marsh is a totally different animal than say the Breaux Canal and issues along rivers north of I-10.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:22 am to
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As long as we have people like those turds who cut off public access fouchon beach


You can still access by water. The beach is closed until they finish the restoration project supposedly reopening sometime this year.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5911 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 5:40 pm to
I understand your pain but if you really keep cutting locks and trespassing, I won't feel sorry for you.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:06 pm to
I never asked for your sympathy.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12857 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:12 pm to
Barf you live in north Baton Rouge or Gardere area by chance?
Posted by Bass_Man
Member since Jul 2015
208 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

I will say the marsh is a totally different animal than say the Breaux canal and issues along rivers north of I-10


I've never had or seen any issues with this subject other than below I-10. You have to way out of your way to trasspass most other areas I've ever fished north of that.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5911 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:28 pm to
You will not get it. Stay the frick out out of private property.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:36 pm to
Ok
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5911 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:41 pm to
I'm watching you
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 6:46 pm to
You gonna sic your insurance company on me?
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12857 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:00 pm to
Damn and my buddy caught a sack over 16 lbs in the Tucker tourney. He was probably fishing gated waters. No fish in public waters
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