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re: Friend got bit by a copperhead

Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:14 am to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29765 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 11:14 am to
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Why does it seem like hospitals are routinely running out of anti venom?




Because for a lot of healthy people it isn't actually needed.

Others have extreme reactions.

Buddy of mine was hit by a copperhead crawfishing and lost his arm from the elbow down.

Guy I golf with is a fricking magnet for baby snakes and has been hit more times than i care to think about. The last time he got bit at the Island we finished the back 9 before going to the hospital he ran a fever and they gave him fluids and IV antibiotics to ward off possible infection.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5959 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:22 pm to

Wife of our neighbor to our Texas lease got hit by a coral snake. Husband rushed her to the hospital in Seguin from where she was airlifted to a hospital in San Antonio where she was given antivenom. The antivenom caused a heart attack but she lived through it all. The bill was way north of $100k.


Posted by hophead
Member since Nov 2007
2051 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:32 pm to
In grown toenail cut
Posted by livnthehighlife
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2012
469 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:34 pm to
I got bit by copperhead a few yrs ago and was in the hospital for 6 days
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7560 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:42 pm to
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Did you see op's feet? One little bite and each foot looked seriously fricked up.

Yes, I saw the picture. Yes, it's a nasty bite. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to get bit by any kind of snake, even a non-venomous one. Having said that, copperhead bites are not normally as severe as rattlesnake or cottonmouth bites. I'm guessing you didn't read any of the article I provided in the earlier post.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7560 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:50 pm to
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I understood both of these before I asked the question, I still don’t understand why. Country Labor is cheap, someone can’t open up a snake venom place in the middle of New Mexico or Mississippi? If it’s expensive and in high demand and perishable seems like a business opportunity.


Yes, it is a business opportunity, but producing drugs is both expensive and risky. In addition to the usual challenges of a business, one has to deal w/ the costs of developing a drug, FDA regulations and costly drug trials, just to name a few. Once you bring a drug to market, you have limited time to profit from it. (After you start working on a drug, it's your property for only 17 years before it's available as a generic. Bring it to market after 15 years of R&D and you have 2 years left to make some money). Once you get it to market, you now have the potential of law suits to deal with. It can be a tough industry.
Posted by livnthehighlife
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2012
469 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 12:52 pm to
The type of venomous snake is irrelevant in regards to severity. It’s how much venom is planted in you that makes the difference. When you are treated, they treat you by your level of pain. When I first arrived at the hospital, I gave my pain level a 6-7...30-45 min later I was nearly in tears. Two-thirds of all snake bites result in the snake not releasing any venom, allowing a quick release from the hospital. I was bit by a small/immature snake. Young snakes lack the ability of controlling their venom, while mature snakes possess the ability to do so.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 8:23 am
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7560 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:02 pm to
The Coral Snake has a different kind of venom (it's a toxin on the nervous system) so requires a different antivenin than pit vipers. Given the rarity of Coral Snake envenomations (<100/yr US), there are problems maintaining adequate supplies of the antivenin.Glad you neighbor survived.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79766 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:17 pm to
Yes, I read it. I was making a joke about the nasty feet.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12798 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:29 pm to
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I bet someone saw it a few days ago and let it live


Kaboom!!
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17778 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:36 pm to
That's why there is a shortage, people killing fricking snakes that they get the anti-venom from. Hello! Laughed pretty hard at some of the responses to this thread. His feet, toe nails look a lot like mine. Could of been me.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
26818 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 1:50 pm to
Damn... I never seen toes nails that bad on a hobbit.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4895 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 2:38 pm to
Poor guy had ingrown toenail,cut V to try get toenail to grow properly.I had to do that once.
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
395 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 3:29 pm to
Tell your friend he needs to see the “Toe Bro”
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15287 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 3:41 pm to
Snake definitely got the worse end. Big arse feet.
Posted by caddysdad
Member since Oct 2015
275 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 3:56 pm to
LOL at the thought of Joe Blow milking poisonous snakes.
Posted by caddysdad
Member since Oct 2015
275 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 3:59 pm to
Why in Hades would you develop the product and wait 15 years to bring it to market?
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7560 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Why in Hades would you develop the product and wait 15 years to bring it to market?

They don't wait 15 years, it may take 15 years because of the necessary studies and approvals. In addition, the FDA doesn't move fast. Believe, the drug company wants to get it approved ASAP in order to start making profits.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4184 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 4:39 pm to
Buddy of mine from Texas got bit on his ankle by a cottonmouth last night. His foot looked far worse from the bite not sure about the toes and all.
Them suckers must be on the move,,,I have been to Texas a few times that could have been me!!
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
9034 posts
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:15 pm to
Look like little dude been in his boot gnawing on a toenail for awhile
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