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Florida Gun Bill question

Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:09 am
Posted by zuluboudreaux
God’s country USA
Member since Jan 2008
676 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:09 am
From what I read, the bill bans the sale or possession of a Bump stock”.
What does a person do who already legally owns and is in possession of a “bump stock” in Florida?
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:20 am to
Is there not a grandfather provision?
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1274 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:26 am to
Third degree felony to possess one.


quote]Stewart’s bill also would have retroactive effect in Florida. It says that a person who currently owns bump stocks “may” turn them over to law enforcement agency, and it not, the owner “must destroy and render inoperable the device.” A violation is a third-degree felony. Read more here: https://www.bradenton.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article177842041.html#storylink=cpy[/quote] Bradenton Herald

[quote]Sen. Linda Stewart, D-Orlando, filed the bill (SB 456) on Monday. The measure would make it a third-degree felony for anyone to “transfer, distribute, transport, sell, keep for sale, offer or expose for sale, or give a bump fire stock to another person.”
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:31 am to
Funny all the hate for a plastic stock that isn’t even a mechanical device... Florida shooter didn’t even use one.

The try that shite here they better pay me my three fifty
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:33 am to
quote:

“may” turn them over to law enforcement agency, and it not, the owner “must destroy and render inoperable the device.” A violation is a third-degree felony


Wow, what a clown show.
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1274 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:36 am to
Exactly. But, they’re the “feel good”
Party and they have to do “something.” Idiots.
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:39 am to
quote:

The try that shite here they better pay me my three fifty



This is absolutely an unconstitutional taking of property by the government without just compensation. The Supreme Court ruled on this in 2015 in Horne v. Dept of Agriculture Chief Justice Roberts delivered the opinion of the Court holding in part, "The government’s duty to pay just compensation applies to personal property as well as real property, Roberts said. “The government has a categorical duty to pay just compensa­tion when it takes your car, just as when it takes your home.”

No way in hell this statute, as written above, is not a per se taking of personal property by the Government. They are required to pay you for it.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10631 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:42 am to
What exactly do these things do? I have heard them described as turning a semi-auto into a full auto, which crap.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25008 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:12 am to
Waste ammo
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:37 am to
quote:

What exactly do these things do? I have heard them described as turning a semi-auto into a full auto, which crap.


They're more of a talking point to get people to believe they "dont" need it. After that it'll be threaded barrels, flash hider, adjustable stocks and bayonet lug.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:43 am to
Don't forget the shoulder thingy that goes up. Can't believe they haven't banned those yet.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25008 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:25 am to
Just came out a little bit ago that the justice department is moving forward with banning bump stocks.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:32 am to
Some bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 9:37 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14033 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Stewart’s bill also would have retroactive effect in Florida. It says that a person who currently owns bump stocks “may” turn them over to law enforcement agency, and it not, the owner “must destroy and render inoperable the device.” A violation is a third-degree felony


So Jerry Miculek can shoot an AR-15 without a bump stock faster than someone can shoot an AR-15 with a bump stock. Oh and I can garamtee Jerry will be WAY more accurate than the guy with the bump stock.

What do we need to do about Jerry’s finger?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Don't forget the shoulder thingy that goes up. Can't believe they haven't banned those yet.


I can't believe I left that out and the barrel shroud. Can't forget those shrouds of death or something like that. Next up We'll see a "this side up" on magazine sticker requirement.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30410 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:05 pm to
Just like when they made Ecstasy pills illegal. OK to have 500 of them one day, prison time for any the next.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5861 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:19 pm to
Did any of you read the bill? They define what a bump stock is and make it purposefully ambiguous. This is why I said to not support any bans on anything ever
quote:

As used in this section, the term “bumpfire stock” means a conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of fire to a faster rate than is possible for a person to fire such semiautomatic firearm unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device.


They could be coming for Geissele triggers and all sorts of shite. This is what many asked for, even on the OB and Poli board. This was the language of the Florida law signed, I am wondering how the DOJ is going to word theirs.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 6:41 pm to
What about my belt loop? Is that ipl gal now too?
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

What about my belt loop?


Crazier stuff has happened.
Apparently in certain circumstances the ATF will view a shoelace as a machine gun conversion.

ATF and shoelaces


This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Drillingman
Member since Feb 2015
1051 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 9:13 pm to

Damn !!!!!!!!!!
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