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re: Fixed vs Mechanical broadheads
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:30 am to BeerThirty
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:30 am to BeerThirty
First off, Richard 
, I did say rib or shoulder, you then come back with elbow
If you hit the elbow, I assume you missed your aiming point by a significant margin, especially if it is quartered away. Any chance that arrow deflected?
Secondly, what you "see" from the shooters position is not always reality. Your eyes going from looking through a peep, through a sight, and at a deer, things get screwy. It's why sometimes you see your arrow flight and it looks wonky but it isn't. Your eye focus changes so many times so quickly to adjust. What may look like a
, I did say rib or shoulder, you then come back with elbow If you hit the elbow, I assume you missed your aiming point by a significant margin, especially if it is quartered away. Any chance that arrow deflected?
Secondly, what you "see" from the shooters position is not always reality. Your eyes going from looking through a peep, through a sight, and at a deer, things get screwy. It's why sometimes you see your arrow flight and it looks wonky but it isn't. Your eye focus changes so many times so quickly to adjust. What may look like a
quote:is likely the arrow hitting SOLID arse bone and being flicked back when she took off
bounced back 6” from where she was standing.
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:34 am to BeerThirty
There are videos of what you’re describing but it is not because of the broadhead.
As mentioned, arrow flight is massive in terms of terminal performance, it’s in the Ashby reports before weight/FOC or most of the other shite people argue about on the internet.
An arrow is a straight tube. If your arrow flies sideways due to improper tuning, the energy isn’t going straight down the tube, it’s pointing sideways out of the wall of the tube and can deflect.
High FOC bandaids this by dragging the tube behind a heavy point, but doesn’t really eliminate it. That’s why people say high FOC is easier to tune. Fixed heads also tend to be heavier, so it lends folks to say fixed heads don’t deflect.
Tune your bow, shoot whatever head you want.
As mentioned, arrow flight is massive in terms of terminal performance, it’s in the Ashby reports before weight/FOC or most of the other shite people argue about on the internet.
An arrow is a straight tube. If your arrow flies sideways due to improper tuning, the energy isn’t going straight down the tube, it’s pointing sideways out of the wall of the tube and can deflect.
High FOC bandaids this by dragging the tube behind a heavy point, but doesn’t really eliminate it. That’s why people say high FOC is easier to tune. Fixed heads also tend to be heavier, so it lends folks to say fixed heads don’t deflect.
Tune your bow, shoot whatever head you want.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:42 am to mylsuhat
I'll never shoot mechanicals. I don't like extra moving parts and never had an issue getting fixed blades to fly well. I'm still on the grizz trick train.
Bows are just ridiculously unforgiving. Its a pokey stick launcher. I do find it comical that the western guys have gone full circle, back to big flat blade tomahawk looking things bearing a whole lot of resemblance to a flint head, and costing $40 a piece.
Bows are just ridiculously unforgiving. Its a pokey stick launcher. I do find it comical that the western guys have gone full circle, back to big flat blade tomahawk looking things bearing a whole lot of resemblance to a flint head, and costing $40 a piece.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:44 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I love shooting fixed, don't get me wrong
I am just on a crusade to disprove camp lore of bouncing rages
I am just on a crusade to disprove camp lore of bouncing rages
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:52 am to mylsuhat
My brother used to shoot every different kind of broadhead we owned out of the same quiver. When everything is exactly right it's amazing how much a bow can not care about the broadhead.
I don't think anything besides a big rubber blunt head would actually bounce off of a deer. Any kind of "point" is going to penetrate just about anything. I've shot a cinder block wall with a field point before, and the arrow just exploded. If i remember right the block cracked as well.
I could see how something like an old vortex could deflect very badly if the stars lined up. My buddy bought about 1000 of them in the 90's and is still using them.
I don't think anything besides a big rubber blunt head would actually bounce off of a deer. Any kind of "point" is going to penetrate just about anything. I've shot a cinder block wall with a field point before, and the arrow just exploded. If i remember right the block cracked as well.
I could see how something like an old vortex could deflect very badly if the stars lined up. My buddy bought about 1000 of them in the 90's and is still using them.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:57 am to mylsuhat
Had a doe broadside to me, but slightly past me at 15 yards. I hit a rib and get no penetration. The arrow was laying on the ground parallel to how she was standing. She was killed with a rifle a few weeks later and had a spot on her rib from where I had hit her with a Rage. It bounced off the rib. And it wasn’t a hard quartering angle.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:24 am to Geaux565
I shoot Grim Reaper mechanicals and killed numerous hogs and deer with them. The ones I have lost was because of terrible shot placement and not the broad head imo
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:24 am to 257WBY
How do you think that happened? A doe rib isn't anything substantial. You obviously hit it and it didn't penetrate. Really extreme angle? Hit something on the way there?
Like I said in my earlier post, I shot a brick wall (on accident) before and the arrow literally exploded. I don't see how that wouldn't happen with a deer as well, if there was something in there rigid enough to stop an arrow before any penetration happened.
Like I said in my earlier post, I shot a brick wall (on accident) before and the arrow literally exploded. I don't see how that wouldn't happen with a deer as well, if there was something in there rigid enough to stop an arrow before any penetration happened.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:33 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
How do you think that happened? A doe rib isn't anything substantial. You obviously hit it and it didn't penetrate. Really extreme angle? Hit something on the way there?
I had it happen on a doe with the old Rage Xtremes. I was about 25 ft up and the deer was right under me, maybe 4 or 5 yards. Looked like a perfect hit but the I don't think the arrow entered the cavity. I guess the angle made it deflect and ride bone. We trailed her with a dog and bumped her 4 or 5 hours later, she only bled for about 300 yards.
I quit climbing so high after that happened.
This post was edited on 10/10/24 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:58 am to Loup
I shoot a mathews no cam, which isn't a very fast bow to begin with. Fought a shoulder issues for a few seasons and during that issue I put 50lb limbs on it. Got over my shoulder issues, but have enjoyed shooting the 50lbs so much, and so pleased with the terminal performance, I've remained with the 50lb limbs and plan to Stay.
I'm currently shooting 150gr iron wills. When I was shooting 65 and 70lb draw I was running 200gr iron wills. I have been supper impressed with the longevity and durability of these heads. I hunt in an area with a tremendous amount of hogs, and kill a ton of then each season with my bow. The original 3 pack of iron wills I purchased have killed 30 plus animals between hogs and whitetails. Clean pass thoughs on everything with my 50lb set up.
I do think, as many have mentioned, a proper tune is more important than anything. I shot rage hypodermic the first season I had bought this bow as I was having some flight issues with fixed to field points, and I had only gotten the bow a month before the season. The one season I ran the rages, they performed well enough, my biggest complaint was they were one and done. Even on a easy double lung shot. That spring I got my bow tuned properly and have been anal about tunn8ng and proper spine since. Switched to fixed after that and havnt looked back.
I'm currently shooting 150gr iron wills. When I was shooting 65 and 70lb draw I was running 200gr iron wills. I have been supper impressed with the longevity and durability of these heads. I hunt in an area with a tremendous amount of hogs, and kill a ton of then each season with my bow. The original 3 pack of iron wills I purchased have killed 30 plus animals between hogs and whitetails. Clean pass thoughs on everything with my 50lb set up.
I do think, as many have mentioned, a proper tune is more important than anything. I shot rage hypodermic the first season I had bought this bow as I was having some flight issues with fixed to field points, and I had only gotten the bow a month before the season. The one season I ran the rages, they performed well enough, my biggest complaint was they were one and done. Even on a easy double lung shot. That spring I got my bow tuned properly and have been anal about tunn8ng and proper spine since. Switched to fixed after that and havnt looked back.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:01 am to CaptJJ
quote:
The original 3 pack of iron wills I purchased have killed 30 plus animals between hogs and whitetails.
Gosh dang, that's impressive. I usually lose as least one arrow per season. My first hunt last year I shot a hog and a doe and couldn't find either arrow.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:08 am to Loup
If I was shooting iron wills I'd have air tags on both ends of the arrow
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:10 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
If I was shooting iron wills I'd have air tags on both ends of the arrow
That's the main reason I'm not shooting them. I'm already sick enough when I lose a $15 Magnus.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:40 am to Loup
It's tough when you lose one of your good flying arrows that costs $30-50 to replace.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:42 am to Loup
quote:
That's the main reason I'm not shooting them. I'm already sick enough when I lose a $15 Magnus.
Are you shooting magnus single bevel?
Thinking about swapping my setup in preparation for hopefully an archery elk hunt next year.
Buddy of mine is using iron will and almost blew through an elk quartering away.
They are pricey but will be the cheapest part of a trip!!
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:43 am to Ol boy
quote:
Are you shooting magnus single bevel?
No, just the stingers.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 9:48 am to Loup
quote:so you likely sliced her down a side and maybe caught a lung. Not a broadhead issue. I have one lunged deer that do exactly what you had happen. Had the shot on video which showed me what went wrong on a shot that initially looked great to me
I had it happen on a doe with the old Rage Xtremes. I was about 25 ft up and the deer was right under me, maybe 4 or 5 yards. Looked like a perfect hit but the I don't think the arrow entered the cavity. I guess the angle made it deflect and ride bone. We trailed her with a dog and bumped her 4 or 5 hours later, she only bled for about 300 yards.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 10:04 am to Ol boy
Posted on 10/10/24 at 10:14 am to JohnDoe00
quote:
see slick trick is joining the SB train.
Yeah they are on my radar. My buddy said the damage the iron will made was very impressive and the slick trick looks a lot like them.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 10:48 am to Loup
I've had two or three times that a hog has run off and broke and arrows that was stuck in the ground and just gotten very lucky to find those.
I retired those original 3 when the single bevels came out and switched to them. The originals had a few small dings and Knicks in the blade edge, but still sharpened up well and flew great.
I retired those original 3 when the single bevels came out and switched to them. The originals had a few small dings and Knicks in the blade edge, but still sharpened up well and flew great.
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