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re: Fishing/boating on someone else’s property to remain illegal
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:28 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:28 am to AlxTgr
Yes, we have a lot more man made canals that have resulted in faster coastal erosion , that the public tax dollars pay to rebuild, yet the public does not have access to
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:33 am to Wacker
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we have a lot more man made canals that have resulted in faster coastal erosion , that the public tax dollars pay to rebuild, yet the public does not have access to
I feel like I hear this talking point repeated often.
Where exactly is the state rebuilding marsh on private land at the expense of tax payers?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:21 pm to AlxTgr
Was asked to leave a private marsh sat for the first time evah. My guys from Tx were incredulous that water can be private. I asked them to remain quiet until we left.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:23 pm to Clyde Tipton
The CPRA representative on the task force gave a presentation on how they do restoration on private land and after the work is completed they turn over the land to the private owner and the state gets nothing
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:26 pm to Wacker
Research Integrated Coastal Protection Land Rights Acquisition..... CPRA...
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:27 pm to AlxTgr
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the “public water “
What about public air?
what's your deal man?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:43 pm to AlxTgr
You think LA has that many more canals than FL?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:32 pm to Wacker
If the land that the state is protecting is not publicly accessible, whats the point. The state needs to start a seawall along the below marked area where its action are protecting only the public resources. (I'm sure there is all kinds of stuff wrong with where this line is in including public land... sue me)
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:39 pm to Wacker
quote:One thing has nothing to do with the other.
that have resulted in faster coastal erosion , that the public tax dollars pay to rebuild, yet the public does not have access to
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:40 pm to Bedhog
quote:What do you mean?
what's your deal man?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:48 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Doesn't matter for Fl. because:
You think LA has that many more canals than FL?
quote:
The use of the term "manmade" in describing canals compels me to state that if the owner of the land underneath the artificially created body of water has never made the water above available to the public, then the owner, in a sense, controls fishing in the body of water by controlling the means of access to it, even for one who has a proper license or permit to take fish and even if the season is lawful for the taking of fish from other water in the area.
Advisory Legal Opinion - AGO 75-167
Number: AGO 75-167
Date: June 9, 1975
Subject: Fishing and traffic in manmade canals
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:55 pm to Wacker
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public water
Define this for me, if you will. This is the part that I find tricky.
Say I (or a group of individuals and I) own all of the land around a small lake that a public roadway drives by/near.
Are you saying that the public should be able to fish that lake?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:56 pm to Decisions
No,they don't say that. Navigable is key to their argument.
What if an air boat could travel across the grass?
What if an air boat could travel across the grass?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:03 pm to Mr Wonderful
I work and play on both sides of this issue, I tend to lean towards open access to navigable waters, but I see the other side more than I used to. I’m currently involved with 2 projects that will block public access, one I sort of agree with, one I sort of don’t. Louisiana definitely has a more unique situation than most of the rest of the world. We have an insane amount of canals and an insane amount of wetlands that are falling apart. There’s thousands and thousands of acres of land that are accessible now that weren’t 10 years ago due to erosion and storms. I’m heavily involved with this stuff and I still can’t make up my mind. I’m not trying to make an argument, just wanted to illustrate how complicated this actually is.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:06 pm to AlxTgr
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Navigable is key to their argument.
I see.
quote:
What if an air boat could travel across the grass?
I’d say that the term “boat” was being used too loosely and that those did not qualify as a valid representative to determine navigability.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:07 pm to Kadjin
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:12 pm to Kadjin
quote:
I’m heavily involved with this stuff and I still can’t make up my mind. I’m not trying to make an argument, just wanted to illustrate how complicated this actually is.
I agree. However, I will say that this is one of those issues where the very wealthy are running the show. And I’m not saying that not how it should really work. But if it were put to a vote of the citizens of the state, it would pass by a large margin in favor of open access. A very large margin.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:17 pm to Mr Wonderful
quote:What if we put open deer and duck hunting to a vote?
But if it were put to a vote of the citizens of the state, it would pass by a large margin in favor of open access. A very large margin.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:25 pm to AlxTgr
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What if we put open deer and duck hunting to a vote?
Why even have private property at that point, eh?
But seriously, the only reason deer herds are where they are now is because of private management. The woods would be empty if the entire public had access.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:37 pm to Decisions
I am going to start hunting from a hover craft.
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