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F350 or F450?

Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:06 pm
I will be starting some travel work in November & will be pulling a 5th wheel to shack up in. The 350 obviously has plenty of power to pull the house on wheels. However, I’m a buy once cry once kinda guy & im interested in the 450. Any pros/cons to buying the 450 over the 350. TIA
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45805 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:09 pm to
Check the insurance on the 450, a friend of mine mentioned needing to have a CDL and much higher insurance with a 450
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:12 pm to
Would not have guessed that. I’ve checked on the 350 & it runs about $54 a month higher than my current Tundra
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:13 pm to
A 350 with highway gears is probably what you need. A 450 will have a deep ratio rear end and get horrible fuel mileage and cost a good bit more up front. It's basically a purpose built hot shot truck. It is fantastic for what it's designed for but unless your 5th wheel is 41 feet long and 18 feet tall a 350 would be the smarter purchase. I think the 350s are rated up to something like 28k lbs. Your camper probably is half that.
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
I’m getting 11.7mpg with my Tundra currently. Nothing will surprise me with fuel.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5714 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:25 pm to
11.7?!? I get about 14.5 in my tundra
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:28 pm to
I’ve done my mpg by hand since the first fill-up. Best I’ve ever seen is on road trips @ 12.5-12.9.
I have 16,000 miles on it.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5714 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:37 pm to
Dude, are you towing something? I got up to 16.8 on road trips.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:47 pm to
Diesel costs a lot more than gas.

If you just want a 450 because you want the biggest thing on the road that's fine but from a numbers standpoint it makes sense for only a very very small number of people. Odds are you would be fine with a 250, but I do like a dually much more when pulling heavy stuff with lots of wind drag for the stability.
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:58 pm to
Not towing anything Homey, leveled with 33’s that’s it.
I want the Dually for the road stability when pulling.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24986 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 7:04 pm to
You need this:

Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5978 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 7:05 pm to
Isn’t the 6.7 in the 450 detuned? Or is that the 550/650?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:07 pm to
That's almost 2mpg worse than my 6.0 2500hd w/4.10s and aggressive 33s when I average 85. I drive like an a-hole too.

Unless you're going 100, you've got something wrong
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25459 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:16 pm to
A CDL to drive a F-450?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Check the insurance on the 450, a friend of mine mentioned needing to have a CDL and much higher insurance with a 450


Requirements for having a CDL are mandated by federal law and are pretty uniform from state to state. The general requirements are,

"Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.

Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Recreational Vehicles are exempt from CDL requirements."
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:22 pm to
Average daily driving hammerT. I drive 15 miles one way to work 30 miles round trip daily. 38 gallon tank on the Tundra. Sticker said 13 City / 17 hwy w/ average of 15.
I’ve never once seen 15mpg
Average speeds of 50-65 mph
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 8:24 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37523 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:28 pm to
I have a 2018 350 and it pulls like a dream. Don't see the point in going 450 for just a travel trailer
Posted by Cwar11
Shreveport
Member since Jan 2010
2291 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:30 pm to
I’m most likely going with the 350 unless the salesman breaks me a hell of a deal on the 450.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5714 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:35 pm to
I gottcha. Those 33s make a bigger difference than id have thought.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5978 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:42 pm to
Just looked it up...the 450 is full power. The 550 is detuned by a good bit.
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