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entry level deer bolt guns - review and thoughts

Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:20 pm
Posted by down time
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:20 pm
So I've been using a 16" savage axis II and a 16" ruger american ranch for game the past few years.

Here are my thoughts.

Savage is an accurate gun with crisp trigger. I don't like the way the feed ramp/magazine does not like sub sonics. The finish has held up fine. Ergonomics are OK. Overall I give it 3 of 5 stars due to feeding glitches.

The ruger is also accurate with a nice trigger. The stock is more ergonomic over the savage. The AR style magazine is nice. I use Lancer mags designed for subs. The action feels gritty out of the box. It just needs polishing and cycle it about 100 times to feel better.
I give this a 4 of 5 star rating.

They both have nice rails and 5/8 thrd muzzle.

To anyone looking to gear up for sub $500 before rifle season, I thought this info may help.

Also have tikka, wby, and one of the "good 700s" for reference.

Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
718 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:06 pm to
My Ruger American 30-06 is a fine rifle. I was impressed with the trigger and the accuracy on it. Picked it up from a guy who won it at a banquet for cheap too, and it was worth every penny.

I typically prefer blue and wood guns, but it’s the American is nice for crappy weather or loaning out.
Posted by down time
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:14 pm to
Same here.

But the American is hard to beat for $475 and that leaves money for glass.

I think the predator model is the thrd barrel .308
not a fan of the green stock.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:21 pm to
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Savage is an accurate gun with crisp trigger. I don't like the way the feed ramp/magazine does not like sub sonics.


You asked about a deer rifle. Why are you worried about subsonic rounds? Both guns you mentioned are fine guns for deer hunting.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:43 pm to
Tis the golden age for cheap bolt action rifles
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:11 pm to
That Savage Axis combo w scope at Academy is a hard setup to beat at that price.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8384 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 5:47 am to
You wont find a better stock trigger and action than the tikkas. They are not sub $500 new, but you could find an older one.

There are some great models out there these days, hard to go wrong with any of the big names.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6016 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:17 am to
I have no idea if this is a stupid question but is shooting sub sonic's at deer common? I've never heard of it.
Posted by down time
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:24 am to
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You asked about a deer rifle. Why are you worried about subsonic rounds?


Sorry I should have mentioned that any caliber or barrel length will work. My need is different from normal deer guns. I would have the same review for both models in a 22" .270

I use the subs because of some super nosey "Karen" property owners and all short shots. Shooting pigs and varmints at night attracts the wrong type of attention.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 8:34 am
Posted by down time
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Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:31 am to
quote:

have no idea if this is a stupid question but is shooting sub sonic's at deer common? I've never heard of it.


Uncommon, but deadly within 75 yards. The 200 grain copper expanding will anchor pigs and small deer just like a big rifle.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:33 am to
quote:

That Savage Axis combo w scope at Academy is a hard setup to beat at that price.


I think I paid $300 and then mailed in a $50 rebate for an axis in 7mm-08 about 5 or 6 years ago for my daughter. It's a fine shooting rifle. I use it all the time.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1756 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:36 am to
quote:


You wont find a better stock trigger and action than the tikkas. They are not sub $500 new, but you could find an older one.

There are some great models out there these days, hard to go wrong with any of the big names.



Tikka is the same company as Sako?

I grew up hunting with my uncles Sako's and they were fantastic rifles.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30831 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 8:48 am to
Yes, both are owned by Beretta.
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:32 am to
Are you hunting with subsonic ammo?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21814 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Tis the golden age for cheap bolt action rifles


Because tis the golden age for cheap and accurate CNC machines. They may increase in price, but the "lower end" rifles will get nothing but better.
Posted by down time
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Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:00 am to
Yes, the Maker 200 gr Rex and LeHigh 194 gr maximum expansion

.30 cal
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Are you hunting with subsonic ammo?


I've killed hundreds of animals with subsonic ammo. Deer included. No issues at all if you know the limitations of your equipment and ammo.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:19 am to
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This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:27 am to
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I've killed hundreds of animals with subsonic ammo. Deer included. No issues at all if you know the limitations of your equipment and ammo

What is the point? Ammo is probably still supersonic out of a full length rifle barrel. What are you gaining?
Posted by AP83
Cottonport
Member since Sep 2009
2717 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:31 am to
I bought my daughter the ruger american compact .308 when she was 10. My son has the regular ruger american .308. They have been awesome guns especially for the price. I have no complaints and when i hunt my climbing stand that compact
.308 is a great gun to carry.
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