re: Effectiveness of 20 gauge with #6 shot against large coyote within 30 yards?

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Keep ya head on a swivel. A large coyote could be pretty pissed about a load of 6's in his ribs first thing of the morning

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huh? You think he is mounting a counter attack?


No, because if he shot it at 30 yds and hit it it should be dead, or will be shortly.

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caught a live coyote before they will cower down when you walk up to them.

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Like a pound puppy that's been beaten for 5 years is how I would describe them. From experience, if you take a woman to run traps, shoot the coyote ASAP or she will start begging you to let it go because it "looks so sad."

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Folks tend to lose sight of the fact that a #6 pellet has the same killing power coming from a 12,20 or 410. The pellet count is just less.

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Ummmm. Yeah. This isn't even remotely true.

I mean, I get that a #6 is the same pellet in any gauge, and smaller gauges have less of them, but the smaller gauges also have less powder as well. That makes for less velocity, less penatrating power, and thus, less killing power.

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I mean, I get that a #6 is the same pellet in any gauge, and smaller gauges have less of them, but the smaller gauges also have less powder as well. That makes for less velocity, less penatrating power, and thus, less killing power.

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you don't know what you're talking about.

Yes, less powder but also less diameter.

a #6 traveling at he same speed does the exact same thing no matter what it was shot out of.

12g and 20g are typically less than 100fps difference in each other. That's pretty insignificant.

And OP, buddy of mine shot a coyote at about 25yds with 20g turkey load and dropped it right there. It was trying to attack my turkey decoys that he was using.


ETA: if you look at turkey loads, the speeds are exactly the same either 12 or 20. At least on the few that I looked at.

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tigerfoot

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I guess I should've tried to find the sarcasm font when I typed that. If you'll see my first reply you'll see that I agree the dog is dead

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Thanks for doing The Lord's work

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Not sure about that.

On a recent Joe Rogan Experience, they had a guy on there who was a coyote expert and they talked about the spread of coyotes and how it happened.

According to him, there is data to suggest that trying to eradicate coyotes and killing everyone you see may actually increase the population. That's why they have spread so far from their original ranges in the west.

He cited litter sizes and birth rates in different populations of dogs under different pressures. But he basically said that if you leave them alone, they will reach a certain population and stop. They won't spread and they won't multiply beyond a certain level. Once you start pressuring them, survival instinct takes over and they basically go into rabbit mode and start shooting out a ton of pups and they start roaming.

A little off topic, but I thought it was interesting.

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12g and 20g are typically less than 100fps difference in each other. That's pretty insignificant.

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10% is insignificant? Gotcha. But don't forget. You're talking muzzle velocity.

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you don't know what you're talking about.

Yes, less powder but also less diameter.

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Hmmmmm. So, in your opinion, shooting 2 shot out of a .410 for geese would be as effective in killing them as a 10 gauge, with the only difference being number of pellets? Interesting.

Hevi shot 20g and 12g

12
GAUGE
LENGTH CHARGE WEIGHT FPS SHOT SIZE PART#
3-1/2” 2-1/4 1300 5,6,7 95567
3” 1-3/4 1300 5,6,7 93567
20
GAUGE
LENGTH CHARGE WEIGHT FPS SHOT SIZE PART#
3” 1-1/4 1300 5,6,7 92567

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bbvdd

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Why do I feel like we are arguing with a fencepost?