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re: Duck hunting LA any luck?

Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:23 pm to
Astronomical increase in mechanized activity 7 days a week

Rapidly declining habitat

Invasives

Better habitat up north since no till


Perfect storm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 9:52 pm to
It’s been a crazy year for us. We’ve had a handful of good hunts in Geuydan, ducks and geese. It’s not very consistent

I’ve had a couple decent hunts down the Atchafalaya River and those were mostly just big birds, lots of work. Not even worth it.

Killed a shite load of Woodys during the season around Sweetbay Lake.

The one place I’ve been hearing that's been the most consistent is the Turtle Bayou/Penchant area.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:20 pm to
Half limits at Honey Brake this past week.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30549 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 10:29 pm to
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I’ve had a couple decent hunts down the Atchafalaya River and those were mostly just big birds, lots of work. Not even worth



We’ve been rotating spots and working harder per duck than I ever have.

Trend since 99 is less and less birds in La period
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:03 am to
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2. Ice eaters aren't doing anything but allowing the birds in the area a place to get shot in.


Only when those places are being shot. Properly managed and not over pressured they work very well to keep birds in an area they would otherwise leave when freeze up came.


And it doesn't have to be flooded corn....most puddlers will feed in a dry field as well as a flooded one....
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1919 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:11 am to
Hunted next to you on delta plantation , did not fire a shot Saturday .
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:13 am to
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Perhaps opening the season in January like many wanted is the answer.


it would work great for the current year but would be bad for the next year most likely.

Anyone doubting the impact that ag practices has had on migratory waterfowl is simply discounting the data suggesting otherwise. It isn't the only issue but it certainly plays a roll.


Georgia and Florida had a helluve a snow goose migration prior to the 1930s....to the point that market gunning was a thing in the area. There is a WMA on the coast of Georgia which has been keeping records of birds harvested since the 1920s and that area used to harvest a lot of snows. There hasn't been a recorded harvest of a single one since the 1950s despite the population increase. Mechanical harvesters made quick work of harvest but left more grain on the ground....
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5016 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:15 am to
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There has not been an increase in corn acres over the past 20 years. Corn acres peaked at about 97 million in 2012. They're down to about 88 million today. The Midwest has about the same number of acres of farm land as it's had in the past 100 years. That land basically rotates between soybeans and corn each year.


yea but most of that corn ground was getting plowed in the fall, now a big percentage is just being left alone

Also acres have increased a good bit from the 90s and before and have moved west into the Dakotas, western Neb and Kansas

Corn acres in the Delta have also gone up a lot

Soybean acres are substantially up in the last 15-20 years
Posted by bull_moose
Member since Oct 2020
90 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:35 am to
No real luck anywhere except on Catahoula lake. 5 of us went and killed our limit in pintail with a few Mallards and grey ducks. ended up killing 12 in total.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19600 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:36 am to
This has been discussed to nauseum already but it is a safe bet that there are many factors playing a part. Change in AG practices and equipment. New combines leave very little grain, laser leveling, new rice varieties leave little red and black rice. Few corporate farms flood or even lease for hunting and no till up north. All contribute imo.

Increased hunting pressure, in LA and Ark atleast. Birds being imprinted to "refuge hop", decreased habitat along the LA coast. Warmer winters and more W to E fronts instead of N to S.

Probably somethings I missed but all playing a part at some level imo.

I also wouldn't doubt it if the population was lower than they claim.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 8:39 am
Posted by Pirate0714
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
427 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:48 am to
I haven't killed a duck since opening weekend. Past three hunts we have not even seen a duck. This is hunting a little north of Welsh. Yes you will be seeing some blinds open up there shortly after the season is over.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:50 am to
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Also acres have increased a good bit from the 90s

quote:

Corn acres in the Delta have also gone up a lot
quote:

Soybean acres are substantially up in the last 15-20 years


We have fewer acres in production now than we did 30 years ago. CRP and WRP and land development have taken more than 30 million acres out of production. You can't have it both ways. You can't say corn and beans are all going up. Yet there's millions of fewer acres in total production. It doesn't work that way.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13891 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:51 am to
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New combines leave very little grain,
But this contradicts the "there's grain all over the ground up north" statements I've seen for years.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19600 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 8:59 am to
Some of the OB farmers can weigh in with more details but I know the combines are much more efficient and produce a "cleaner" harvest these days.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:06 am to
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This has been discussed to nauseum already but it is a safe bet that there are many factors playing a part. Change in AG practices and equipment. New combines leave very little grain, laser leveling, new rice varieties leave little red and black rice. Few corporate farms flood or even lease for hunting and no till up north. All contribute imo.

Increased hunting pressure, in LA and Ark atleast. Birds being imprinted to "refuge hop", decreased habitat along the LA coast. Warmer winters and more W to E fronts instead of N to S.

Probably somethings I missed but all playing a part at some level imo.

I also wouldn't doubt it if the population was lower than they claim.



That wouldn't surprise me in the least either. Traditional thinking would suggest that this would result in lower bag limits BUT considering the amount of suitable habitat that is not hunted and the continuing efforts to close off more and more public land to hunting, this congregating hunters and increasing pressure on those areas, it may be that bad limits could be tripled without much impact on the population.


I am constantly being taken to task by hunters for suggesting more publicly owned land which is suitable for hunting should be opened to hunters. I am accused of all kinds of ill shite like not knowing how or being willing to scout or wanting to hunt out of my truck. It makes no sense that hunters would not be open to idea that more of the land WE own should be accessible to US to hunt. But there are a lot of hunters who would prefer denigrating someone than stopping for a moment and asking why so much public land, suitable for waterfowl hunting, is closed to waterfowl hunting.

And for the recod, I gets mine, on public land. I just do it in areas where I can avoid, to the extent possible, sky busters and those who see nothing wrong with setting up so close to others who have been set up for 2 hours prior to shooting time so close that when we are picking up decoys you gotta look at the name on them to tell who's are who's.....and I can assure you those areas are getting closed and regulated more and more every year and this is supported by a bunch of hunters.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22682 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:15 am to
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Perhaps opening the season in January like many wanted is the answer.


Bingo. Doesn't anyone find it funny that I can go to Kansas and OK the week after our LA season closes and shoot mallards?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19600 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:17 am to
If you look at just the financial side there is a lot of reasons for them to lie.

Also you are seeing places further north and west starting to see less birds and become spotty, same as LA and Ark did. Reports of OK, Kansas, and Missouri seeing fewer birds the last couple of seasons. Consistency going down which is how it started here first.

Could be BS but supposedly even habitat flats has been spotty some the past couple seasons for ducks.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:26 am to
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If you look at just the financial side there is a lot of reasons for them to lie.

Also you are seeing places further north and west starting to see less birds and become spotty, same as LA and Ark did. Reports of OK, Kansas, and Missouri seeing fewer birds the last couple of seasons. Consistency going down which is how it started here first.

Could be BS but supposedly even habitat flats has been spotty some the past couple seasons for ducks.




There is a HUGE financial incentive to fudge the numbers. The taxes collected on a $10K investment in a decoy spread which goes to the agencies doing the reporting is not a small chunk of change...and run ads and record shows of people using that spread and stacking ducks and geese sales a lot of ad space in TV and print literature. All of these outlets speak reverently of the "X" and extoll the benefits of scouting and working hard to find the mythical "X"....and many hunters fall for it.

It is a common idea today that it is not possible to pull waterfowl to an area they aren't headed to to begin with. I didn't know anything about this when I started hunting ducks and geese in the 1970's...and guess what, being ignorant of this fact I would set up where I could...and kill ducks and geese! The fact that most of those areas were on public land which is still owned by the public but closed to hunting probably does mean that scouting is more important than ever. But it is the limit on where you can set up that is the problem for quality hunts, not the inability to find those areas because they are well known and marked and regulated. All you gotta do is look for the trucks, the signs and listen for the odd shot now and again....thats the "X". such as it exists
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5142 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:27 am to
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Bingo. Doesn't anyone find it funny that I can go to Kansas and OK the week after our LA season closes and shoot mallards?


Both close the same dates as our east zone

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Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30549 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 9:28 am to
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Bingo. Doesn't anyone find it funny that I can go to Kansas and OK the week after our LA season closes and shoot mallard
no you can't
Oklahoma
Zone 1
October 26 - December 1, 2019
December 14, 2019 - January 19, 2020
*Youth Waterfowl Hunting Days
October 5, 2019 & February 1, 2020
Zone 2
November 2 - December 1, 2019
December 14, 2019 - January 26, 2020

kansas ends 1-31 just like LA's east zone... west zone and coastal zone ends 1-24 because the people that want it that way are vocal.

but I can shoot em feb 7 in LA.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 9:29 am
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