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re: Drone Recovery for Deer

Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:59 am to
Posted by WillFerrellisking
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:59 am to
Well yeah it’s effortless when the drone tells you exactly where the deer is but then you aren’t a hunter anymore just a killer.

Take the drone away and that person has to get out and scout to find the deer in which he learns and educates himself on what deer do.

Bottom line a drone is a cheat tool when it comes to scouting. Deer recovery I’m still on the fence with it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:06 am to
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Deer recovery I’m still on the fence with it.


They shouldnt be allowed in the woods at all for any purpose.


Eta: Amy purpose that pertains to hunting. They are great tools for industrial uses
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 8:09 am
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:24 am to
Because there are always those people that use it for no good
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:38 am to
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The wasting hours and days is what they call hunting.


This.

I guess it comes down to "why do you hunt". Do you hunt because you want to brag to your buddies or on social media? Or do you hunt to be in nature and overcome an animal that was made to avoid you?

Losing the art of trailing a deer seems to be a big deal. While I think using a drone when all other methods have failed is good. If anyone had just take a bad shot and someone can send up a drone to find any wounded deer then what is the impetus for someone to get better? Nothing will make go back to the range to practice or make you take your time to make a better shot than losing a deer. It stays with you. It's an important part of learning to hunt. I just fear that we are losing what makes the sport special.

Old man rant I guess.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:47 am to
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Get out there in the woods and learn for yourself so no matter where you go hunting you’ll have common sense knowledge as to what deer do.


I can guarantee I'll see a deer after scouting while hunting. I can't guarantee I'll see the buck that rubbed 100 trees if he's not on the property. A drone will tell you whether it's worth persuing.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:50 am to
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Old man rant I guess.


I'm not old yet, but I do my fair share of hunting both in Louisiana and out west.

For me, these days, the challenge is just being able to go. I've got more incentive than anybody else to use every advantage available to find success when I do get a chance to go. I hunted and fished more in a year when I was 5 years old than I do now.

I wish everything electronic except potentially life saving devices disappeared from hunting. Cameras, drones, GPS maps, rangefinders, illuminated optics, electric bikes / carts, all of it. Everything except a basic inreach in the woods. Digital scouting from home, fine. Use a map and a compass to get there in the woods. Don't trust yourself to do that? Good, don't go and stay closer to the road. Give the animals some sanctity and peace. I wish it'd all go away. Frankly, I don't really care if a deer gets wounded and dies without being recovered if that means less people in the woods, less pressure, less assurance of a buck's presence, and the list goes on and on and on. How many are hit by cars every year that go to waste? I don't care that it has a big rack or is a genetic gold mine or whatever else. If it goes to waste so be it, you shouldn't have shot at it if you weren't assured of killing it. Call a dog. Use non-electronic means of recovering it.

Yes, this is a fine example of I wish everybody would just enjoy the outdoors the way that I want them to enjoy it rather than how they want to enjoy it. Don't really care. Go out west on a public land elk hunt and force yourself to completely unplug for 2 weeks and discover what hunting really can be, and coming back to our southeastern deer leases with cell cameras and GPS and nowhere for a deer to hide and it just sucks by comparison. Everybody thinking they own whatever buck because they've been feeding it. Everybody trying so damned hard to kill "their" target buck. Everybody knowing damn near every deer that crosses the property. Can't take a piss in the woods without someone getting a picture of my bird. Now we've got legitimate 1st world warfighting equipment available to us. The deer is still just a deer.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:50 am to
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letting people who shouldn’t be in the woods to start with think they are professionals!
why do I care what others think of themselves.

Hunt how you want. The sport is seeing declining numbers. With that will come less access, less management, less everything. Long time hunters/fishers more time complaining than most subsets of humans.

If you gave this technology to hunters/trappers at the dawn of our country, would they use it? Yep. Were they better woodsmen than us? yep.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:54 am to
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If you gave this technology to hunters/trappers at the dawn of our country, would they use it? Yep.


And EVERYTHING of any tiny bit of value would be extinct right now.

We aren't doing this to survive. We're doing it for fun. All this crap makes it not fun. Those who think it is fun are doing it wrong.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60524 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:03 am to
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And EVERYTHING of any tiny bit of value would be extinct right now. We aren't doing this to survive. We're doing it for fun
they killed all the buffalo w no optics. They killed all the deer with no trail cams.

Management saved hunting. With trail cameras, optics, feeders, buddy heaters, real rain protection, scent killling devices m, etc. there is game a plenty. I don’t care how others enjoy themselves as long as they are buying licenses and paying fees. I want more participation, not less.
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:10 am to
Just curious as I don't totally disagree with your thoughts for the most part, but what kind of hunting out west do you do without a range finder? Are you using straight iron sights with a muzzleloader or something?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:18 am to
“ I don’t care how others enjoy themselves as long as they are buying licenses and paying fees. I want more participation, not less.”

So you good with your neighbors flying drones over your place, then baiting the property line to try to pull that buck to them?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:20 am to
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they killed all the buffalo w no optics. They killed all the deer with no trail cams.


Not quite all of them. They'd have gotten ALL of them with the stuff we have now.

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Management saved hunting. With trail cameras, optics, feeders, buddy heaters, real rain protection, scent killling devices m, etc. there is game a plenty. I don’t care how others enjoy themselves as long as they are buying licenses and paying fees. I want more participation, not less.


I care how others enjoy themselves when it impedes on my enjoyment. I'm sure the bow hunters hate me for using a rifle. Everybody has their own line in the sand where the people on the other side of the line are abominations and ruining the sport. For me, it's EVERYTHING electronic. How anybody can support thermal drones being in the woods for any reason is beyond my comprehension.

I know I can get to that meadow 2 miles from the road before daylight with a map and a compass and no extra steps. Now, any fat arse with OnX can get there and back with zero fear. I know I can get to the back of the shell cuts in the spillway without getting lost. Now, any dumbass with a GPS can get there and back with zero fear.

Introduce thermal drones to that equation??? Now an animal can't even move at night without getting headed off at daylight with near 100% certainty. I already thought cameras were a bridge too far but thermal drones are next level ridiculous. To think that they would be used only for recovering wounded deer is laughable. The average coonass looses his brain every October over killing a deer. Look around at what people are doing now to try to kill a deer.

Nope, keep them out of the woods and take everything else electronic out as well while we're at it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60524 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:27 am to
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So you good with your neighbors flying drones over your place, then baiting the property line to try to pull that buck to them?
I don’t care at all. That deer could chase a doe a mile. Or the neighbors deer could end up on my property


As long as legal, I don’t care how others hunt.

We were w another adult the other day and my son was showing deer killed he sees on social media. Every deer was nice, Every deer shown was greeted w some petty bullshite from the man. High fence, 10000 dollars will buy you that. Well that club is a milllion to join…,on and on. In truck ride home my son asked about what I thought..I just told him they were nice deer anyone would love to kill. Period.

These comments reek of jealousy and inferiority. It’s a deer. If someone goes to a fancy steak house and enjoys the best steak of their life. Good for them. I still love my backyard sirloin.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:29 am to
I use a rangefinder. I also use OnX, a GPS, an inreach, and a PLB. I have a $400 set of badass hiking boots, ultralightweight puffy clothes, a fourwheeler, a big tent with a wood stove, I use a big arse rifle with a big arse scope. Doesn't mean I'm proud of myself for it, but I am competing with a lot of people for a few animals out there. Thus far the rangefinder has gotten me zero animals that I'd have missed without it though. I don't shoot far.

I envy those who are able to live life practicing what you preach to perfection. I don't. I'd gladly give up all the electronic gizmos if everybody else had to.

My personal opinion (which is of course the correct opinion , everybody else is wrong) is that the electronic devices need to go away from hunting. A rifle and a scope don't tell you where the animals are or how to get to them. It doesn't keep you from getting lost. It doesn't tell you if there are any animals in your vicinity or not. It doesn't give you a fool-proof means of recovery.
Posted by cubsfinger
On The Road
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:36 am to
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I know a couple of folks who are using drones to look for bait offshore


One of our customers uses helicopters to find tuna schools offshore. Then they send in the speed boats to net them. They process 2 million cans worth of tuna a day.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60524 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:50 am to
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know I can get to that meadow 2 miles from the road before daylight with a map and a compass and no extra steps. Now, any fat arse with OnX can get there and back with zero fear. I know I can get to the back of the shell cuts in the spillway without getting lost. Now, any dumbass with a GPS can get there and back with zero fear.

Ive wandered around lost for hours that total days in my life. I was never fearful. I was aggravated, but walk a few miles in any one direction and you are finding your way out if you have the sense God gave a goose.

I dont care how others harvest game as long as legal and ethical to the animal in that it is harvested in a way that minimizes suffering. I view it the same as any other sport. The 5A football program with dedicated strength programs, technological advances, facilities and skilled coaches will beat the hell out of the 1A program....should the 1A program not enjoy and celebrate their championships? Of course not, no one needs to remind others that they would be inferior in other divisions...everyone knows. Every one knows you will routinely kill better deer at Winter Quarters than your lease in the pines of Rapides parish. If this also means you can kill better deer with the use of technology, while I may or may not utilize the same....I dont care. The resource is better than ever in almost every state, to the point that the biggest threat is CWD, not drones or cameras or OnX.

Now, if you want to make a case that feeding is bad for the overall herd..as well as improper herd management being bad for everyone in the sport no matter how you choose to hunt...I am all ears. High fenced areas should be only allowed if all native deer are captured and relocated prior to closing off. After that, treat your private land and privately acquired resources however you choose, no State management or rules apply.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:51 am
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
2440 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:00 am to
No idea where you hunt but I’d say Hunter numbers are increasing. Especially in the south.

I’ve always heard/read about declining numbers but I’ve never seen this happen. Statistics can be skewed into whatever way you want numbers to be.

Also just because you read that license sales are declining doesn’t mean that people aren’t hunting without a license.
Posted by bradygolf98
Member since Jan 2021
3196 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:12 am to
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Also just because you read that license sales are declining doesn’t mean that people aren’t hunting without a license.

While that might be the case, we're just guessing on that. Are people hunting without a license? Sure, but that's always happened. Is it more or less than it's always been? I don't know, but maybe you can provide something that says there are?

In Louisiana, the number of licensed and registered hunters is declining though.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:17 am to
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I dont care how others harvest game as long as legal and ethical to the animal in that it is harvested in a way that minimizes suffering. I view it the same as any other sport.


We're so far apart on this that I don't think we could even discuss it. I don't care about any other sport. I do care about hunting and fishing.

But as I said earlier, there are two types of opinions in this world - My opinion and wrong opinions. Electronics with very limited exceptions need to be limited to home or base camp and otherwise should be removed from hunting / scouting entirely.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60524 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:19 am to
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No idea where you hunt but I’d say Hunter numbers are increasing. Especially in the south.

I’ve always heard/read about declining numbers but I’ve never seen this happen. Statistics can be skewed into whatever way you want numbers to be.

Also just because you read that license sales are declining doesn’t mean that people aren’t hunting without a license.
4.6% of the population hunts now versus 9% in 1960s. As overall population numbers decrease in the US, the 4.6% number will make management and public land acquisition stall.

Now, if you choose to just disregard the numbers and think that over 12 million people are just not buying licenses, I cant convince you. I would venture that there was a higher percentage of non licensed hunters in the 60s, making the numbers even more alarming.

We have healthy populations of deer and turkey in spite of poor predator management programs in the State. In the early 90s we had 17 million folks hunting fewer public acres in La, we have over a million fewer hunters. Like an 8 percent reduction. that is over 40 million fewer tax dollars than we would have had, most of it going directly to state agencies to manage land and game. Agencies that have shown success in management of deer and turkey populations.


But again, I doubt you trust any numbers, so the argument if futile.
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