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DIY elk hunt CO unit 35

Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:10 pm
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
1288 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:10 pm
A buddy of mine is heading up there the last week of September for a week and invited me to go with him (archery). I’ve never been elk hunting but it’s high up on my bucket list. Had anyone hunted this area or near it recently? Any advice in general and on the elk population is appreciated. He has been a handful of times to CO but it’s been a few years since he last went to this area. We will be camping out in a spot he knows. Thanks.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62395 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:48 pm to
Not in that zone, but the biggest advice I would give is to be in shape, especially if you are above 10,000 feet. I thought I was in shape to chase em, and did well the first few days, but by day 3, I was tripping over sticks I saw in the trail, that I couldn’t lift my legs over, lol. The animals are fairly dumb, compared to stalking other game, so the actual hunting and strategies aren’t hard, but start now, don’t skip leg day…
Posted by Taxman2010
In The Woods
Member since Jan 2022
535 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:12 pm to
Success rate for archery over the past 5 years is 10%. So either the terrain is awful, or the population isnt great, or both.

*** Unit 66 and 67 is some of the roughest terrain in the lower 48 and the archery success rate is 45%. Must not be very many herds in 35.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18597 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:27 pm to
Unit 35 is close enough to the Denver metro so it likely gets hit pretty hard.

I haven't hunted that unit but I am in Colorado every fall.

Get a diaphragm cow call and learn to use it. Most bugles you will hear are going to be other hunters so unless you are certain I wouldn't spend a lot of time chasing bugles.

If you are hunting together one hunter set up behind the other by about 50 yards and cow call with the shooter between the caller and the elk. Both need to be hidden and EXTREMELY careful of the wind - both the thermals and prevailing.

In the offset set-up the bull, if he is going to hang up, will do so close to the shooter. That is where the caller needs to use some finesse and try to get the bull to close without circling around.

Be in the best shape you can, then get in better shape. Drink more water than you can hold starting a week or two before you go - the more hydrated you are the higher your blood volume, the more blood volume you have the more red blood cells, the more red blood cells the more oxygen you can carry.

Get as far from any road as you can, most hunters are going to be within 2 miles of a road/trail that allows atvs. If you are 5 miles in the crowd will be thinner. Keep in mind, if you kill something 10 miles in your going to carry it 10 miles out in about 4 loads.

Keep a first aid kit with you that you can treat severe cuts with. Last year I found three broad head intact arrows in the thick brush about thigh high - any one of them could have stabbed me.

I would recommend also having an emergency locator if you're not very familiar and capable with backwoods survival.


Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5564 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:25 am to
How old are you and what kind of shape are you in? If you’ve never done any Western hunting or backpacking, you’ll be in a mad scramble the next two months to outfit yourself properly.
You’ll be getting there after the elk have been hunted for a month. That includes a week of muzzleloader. Your unit will have been hunted to death by the time you arrive. And the nature lovers from Denver will have hiked all over the unit.
Frame success as seeing beautiful country and actually seeing a few elk. Anything more than that is gravy.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25463 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

The animals are fairly dumb, compared to stalking other game, so the actual hunting and strategies aren’t hard,


Elk are far from dumb. If they were, success rates would be a hell of a lot higher than they are.

I would agree that the strategy to find them isn't too hard. Knowing what to look for and understanding the wind is easy. locating the elk can be easy with calls if they are being vocal. but getting a 5x5 to get within shooting distance of you is anything but easy. They aren't idiots and they know exactly where you are supposed to be when you are calling to them, and when they get close and realize there isn't another giant antlered elk in that pinpoint location, they are going to pause and know something is up. Then they are going to try to get above you and sniff you out, or just plain leave.

I would say the only time i would consider them dumb is if they are extremely horny and you are an excellent caller that is able to piss them off to the point that they are going to charge at you to come kick your arse. More often than not, they don't give a shite about your calls b/c they know where their cows are and they know they are bigger than you so you aren't a challenge to them, but that rare time you've pissed them off with your calls and they maybe think you've got one of his cows, that's when you'll get that opportunity to shoot them.
Or you get that younger satellite bull who hasn't gotten his arse whipped yet to come check out and challenge a bull(you) b/c he thinks he can take him and his cows.

OP, get your arse in shape. Start walking on the treadmill at the highest angle for at least 30 minutes a day every day, or the stairmaster.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3757 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:45 am to
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I would recommend also having an emergency locator

absolutely
also, a hand held gps
at the very least, get a ball compass with the safety pin that you can attach to your shirt pocket
also, find a water hole...
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7061 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:46 am to
You may be in shape but try to arrive a few days early to get acclimated to the altitude. Elk hunting really is a two man sport so work together as a team. One guy calls the other shoots.

One thing I did and I credit it with my successful first hunt was take Elk 101 online elk hunting course by Corey Jacobson. It was very informative - especially with strategies and calling.



This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 8:46 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25463 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:58 am to
quote:

also, a hand held gps



you mean your phone.

Pay for onX or Gaia maps. download the area you're going to hunt and then you can use your gps and the map when you have our phone on airplane mode, which you should leave it on while hunting to preserve your battery.


and i second downloading Elk101 and listening to all of it. As i said before, get on a treadmill or stairmaster everyday and listen to Corey Jacobsen on Elk101 while you walk.
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
1288 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:38 am to
quote:

How old are you and what kind of shape are you in? If you’ve never done any Western hunting or backpacking, you’ll be in a mad scramble the next two months to outfit yourself properly.


I’m in my early 30’s and in good shape. Not great and I know it’ll be hell getting into the shape required. I haven’t fully committed to the trip yet because I want to collect more info on the area, elk hunting, etc. I love bow hunting for white tails and what I’ve read online is elk and deer hunting have less in common than I thought. I appreciate all of the info given.

Hearing that it’s a high traffic area and we will be there later in the season isn’t persuading me much. I got an offer to hunt velvet whitetails in KY on Labor Day so might do that instead (can’t do both).
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48931 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:49 am to
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I’m in my early 30’s and in good shape. Not great
If live in Louisiana and you think you're in great shape you're in bad mountain shape; if you think you're in good shape, you better get after it HARD
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:14 am to
quote:

get after it HARD


This.

GET. IN. SHAPE.

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20420 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I haven’t fully committed to the trip yet because I want to collect more info on the area, elk hunting, etc. I love bow hunting for white tails and what I’ve read online is elk and deer hunting have less in common than I thought. I appreciate all of the info given.


If you have the time off easily and can afford the $1000 or so to get there and back plus another $1000 or so for the gear then I'd recommend going and just not hunt. As said its better to hunt them like turkeys and have one guy call in the rear and another guy be the shooter. So just call and be there for the experience, save the $600 or so for the tag. The chances of two guys with little knowledge of an area both needing a tag is almost 0.
Posted by Woodbird
Member since Jun 2017
262 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:19 am to
Being completely honest with you - as someone who has been there and done that - you’re signing up to buy a good bit of new gear and go on a hiking trip with your bow. You’ll be with a friend and have a good time and see some beautiful country, but the odds are against you to actually kill. If the success rate is 10% then know there are probably a few guys that hunt the unit every year that are killing half of the bulls that get killed in the unit each year. For a random guy to just show up on a hunt like that, the actual success rate will be a fraction of the posted success rate.

With that said, if you think this type of hunt may be something you want to get into then go and get your feet wet and you’ll learn a lot that you can use next year, etc. I made my first hunting trip out west about 5 years ago and have been elk, antelope, or mule deer hunting out west every year since.

If you’re looking to kill something then I’d go to Kentucky and hunt velvet white tails.
Posted by PierPunk
#BugaNation
Member since Apr 2013
3291 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:23 am to
Did anyone mention cardio yet? Start running and get on the stairclimber

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Hearing that it’s a high traffic area and we will be there later in the season isn’t persuading me much


Absolutely do not let this stop you. Last year, we were watching cars drive by a couple hundred yards away with 4 bulls bugling their faces off. In 2021, we were sitting at our car drinking a beer when we called a bull to within 100 yards. These were both late Sept (my preferred time to go).

I grew up hunting whitetails but elk hunting the rut with bulls bugling blows it away, if you have a chance I would say give it a shot.
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
1288 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:58 am to
Thanks for all of the information! It’s definitely a trip I want to make at some point.
Posted by flyeaglesfly412
Saint Amant
Member since Nov 2017
33 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:11 am to
Looking at Unit 35, It really doesnt look like a good unit for Elk (especially archery). I would think this unit is better for mule deer because the terrain appears to be mostly open sage brush.
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